| Author | ENOUGH WITH THAT! |
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I'm really frustrated with this kind of peoples.No knowledge at all. DAMN IT, you are worse than animal,BNA!
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470611171
look at this hunt, 99% elf will attract more stacks of creature to his side and after 2 stacks of them moved, he shall know that he need to assist me with attack the middle stack there at the upper side of the battle field , not at the down side because he can assist me when needed and able to reach there!
and he dare to lie to me that his vampire can't reach to 49 when I asked him. He thought I'm 3 years old?Damn and final there,clear to see that he intentionally lose it.
I SWEAR I'LL SPOIL HIS HUNT, DON'T LET ME HAS THE CHANCE!
Btw,I'm need a list of trusted players.
I'll select you for certain hunt and pay you 50 gold for hunt under 5th grade, 100 gold for 5th grade.
PM me if you are interested.
[Player banned by moderator Kush until 2008-08-20 18:27:19 // offence/warning] |
check this battle: http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470600017
close to the end, if you attacked the other stack instead of the 68, we win. otherwise, we lose. simple tactics.
skeleton archers lose about 70% power at long range. 1100 is a large number and you have to be careful. |
another elf who thinks his troops are more important than those of someone else. A necromancers first task is to defend his own skeletal bowmen. They are much more powerful than the elven bowmen that die at the slightest touch. On top of that a single hobgoblin stack of 49 is merely food for a vampire. There is absolutely no need to make it a top priority kill and sacrifice his vampires for nothing. Just get all goblin stacks below 100 and a 5 stack vampire will eat them all.
If at the other hand you assisted BNA with your forest runners and just sacrificed your bowmen this would have been an easy win. But elfes very rarely assist other people while necros almost always come to the defense of elfs. I find that very odd since elfs have nothing to lose and necros permanently lose skeletons. |
Elves treat all races the same, they always want defended at the expense of the other player and quite often the battle is lost because of this.
It's funny how it's never the elves fault a battle is lost......... |
for Agamemnon:
agree with u,even on my lvl many elves don't split their stack,cause it's just an ally headache to cpver their bows. |
| After watching that fight, the only mistake he made was shooting at the stack that was near you than him. I agree with the previous 3 posters, elf faction gives people superiority complex. |
if elves on humts would forget their druid bunker formation and place those bowmen in the middle, guess what?
all mobs will come in easy reach for all and ye can shoot short range a lot sooner too,
but no, it is always the corner, drawing those mobs out of mino range, making the assistand waste turns to move and lets you shoot at least twice as often at long range, which is, esp vs slow monsters, a waste of good arrows |
| at 7: indeed every assistance with strong ranged units on both sides should be done like that. Just watch this battle http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470616293 |
i dont mind elf put their bowmen at corner when i assist them.
sure it does, i knew mobs will after those elven bowmen, i just put my bowmen and other at mid. high speed like griffin will be at corner.
unless, we are hunting some slow creature like farmer, zombie and etc. both bowmen can place at mid to do some focus shot. |
| Playing bad isn't a cryminal or obstruction , just be patient if you ask someone to help you .. or hunting lonely :) |
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im a lv5 elf and i always do that too and when you said out of mino range did you mean minotaurs the tier 3 troops for DE? |
When I'm assisting with a hunt that is really difficult, even for two players, I always ask "center or corners?" It really saves a lot of headache when you know where your partner is going to be. And those times when I tried other races I positioned my troops keeping in mind that 4 of 5 stacks will attack the elf.
Besides, necro often hide their skellies in the corner too, and demons hide succubi. Puting ranged units in the center is only good if both players agreed to do that.
But really, why all the the elf bashing? It's a player who makes choices, and we're all humans here afaik :)
And finally...
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It's always the elf's fault if the battle is lost. :p every elf knows that) |
well, lets put it this way, the bunker tactics (corner and other things around, wether it be druids, fairies , zombies or demons) is very usefull in a solitary hunt, it takes some stacks a turn longer to reach the archers.
in a grouphunt thou, i advice to place all high aggro mobs (which are mostly the ranged ones, but also applies for rogues for example) in the middle.
that way both players meleers can reach the attackers, and the higher speed units can be placed outside.
also it next to guarantees that the mobs get into range for the shooters after 1 move, if they have to diverse direction for going to a corner, they quite often are not.
it also makes it harder for an assistant to be there and fill in a gap of the bunker if needed, ot is actually all about using the aggro to kill them fast and efficient, and bunkering does not that, it more like makes sure ye can survive longer and kill less (which is gret if ye are a fl7 wizzy, where your critters are all about surviving, but all other races need their critters for the biggest damage output, not the hero) |
Putting shooters in the center can also be dangerous because one single enemy stack can prevent all shooters from firing. It happens very often when the enemy is split in different stacks playing one after another; one stack destroys the wall, and the second one gets in the way. So there's no perfect solution.
But I agree with previous messages: a lot of suffering can be avoided if people take time to discuss their deployment before battle start. |
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:) |
| man,pegasus is mean.*cry*lol |
I found a way to handle this kind of situation next time if I meet again. :)
mod can close the topic =] |
| closed by Pang (2008-08-23 14:51:47) |
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