Author | resources trading |
i dont mind people using the market to earn some money, but right now it is outrageous, we have people adding 50 gold per element or more. This would be no problem if we all had the same chance of buying them at the mines but we dont
i have a slow internet connection so it is impossible for me to buy any. when i see there are available and buy them others with a faster connection will already bought them before me.
can we please do something about this, either setting a maximum sales prices or a max ammount of units each player can buy in 1 time?
any thoughts to make this more fair for people with slower connections?? |
and dont say it is like this is the real world cause it is not.
go to a supermarkt, if something is on sale or there is a limited amount then the supermaket will set a buying limit of for example 6 per customer.
i know this is not the real world as well, but it would be nicer to play |
maybe it is nice to start the following
the one who works at a mine can choose to buy the resources he just made
this way it forces people to work at the mines which resources they want to buy.
they can also declines this so there will always be some resources for others to buy.
anyone has some other soluctions?
right now the economy is going down the drain. like wallstreet, inflation is soaring and that is not good for the game itself too. |
market itself is the real economics
trade between players, not with computer |
a market is real economics thats is true,, but every market has limits and supplies which are higher then demands, this way the customer and seller are in it together to set the ideal pricing system.
thats not whats happening here, the supply is way lower then de demand, causing prices to soar, in any normal situation the government will step in and set maximum prices to goods as well as maximum buying limit.
In our situation there isn't and some people are exploting it. We have people with fast cars (connection) buying all the products and then resell them for a higher price to people with a bicyle (slower internet)
these elite of society (just kidding!! i mean people in countries with a better connection) are now creating inflations of 15%, thats not a normal market system. Thats exploitation. |
We don't even have the worst aspect of real economy, speculators, who just drain the market and keep it to raise the price, like it happened with oil. Here we have a pretty straight relation between supply and demand and the price, because everything bought is forwarded directly to the market.
By the way the price at the market is limited, for the rare resources like mercury it is 432. |
We don't even have the worst aspect of real economy, speculators
Actually, that's the only type of trade we have - the only type that's possible, really. Buy low on the map, sell high on the market. And yes, market price is limited (highest and lowest)
I'm not complaining, though I do wish I could participate ;P |
What I meant was buying at a time hoping for higher prices later (or even fostering them) and selling them then. |
they did it just before ap was initiated, so we have that too.
and again i reaaly dont mind people earning money this way, but adding 50-70 gold is just to much, thats 15% up, thats not normal.
it should still be allowed when people really want to use the market, but others like me dont mind walking around to buy the resources.
so i really think that my idea is good for both
you either spend time or extra gold on the resources.
the one who works at a mine can choose to buy the resources he just made
this way it forces people to work at the mines which resources they want to buy. they can also declines this so there will always be some resources for others to buy.
i think that is fair for all players |
i agree. limits are needed-and working for coin or item is a good idea
i managed to buy some wood in hopes of speeding up the new areas, ill sell wood to the facilities for, what, 1 coin profit..no big deal.
but i didn't even consider monopolizing the market and exploiting players who need a resource. |
Why does everyone call it a monopoly, there are many players offering resources at the market, so it could be at most a cartel, but it isn't since there is a rough competition between the suppliers. So all we have is the 'unchecked' power of the free market, well as unchecked as it can be with maximal price. |
what is the maximal price?
i dont think there is any.
it is not a monopoly, but more like a mafia\, controlled by several families :D
i just think my idea is good, i will post it in ideas as well,
it will even the whole supply market a little and give players with either a slow connection or not so much playing time a bigger share of the game |
Try to sell for example crystals for more than 432 gold per unit, it will always set the price down to this limit. |
21dec 13:54 at market mercury is like 397 gold! but at lab its only 369 gold thats 28 gold diference!!
and all the other mining places in blooming glade are also empty admins plz help!! |
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fusei: what we have is not a market, as working facilities don;t raise their prices, though they are still sold out. that way those players who are lucky or fast or whatever enough to get the resources produced, gain a profit that would otherwise stay at the producing facilities. Those facilities could then raise their prices making more people want to work for them. |
I tried to buy crystal for several hours in a row, I always managed to get the screen letting me choose the amount I wish to buy but before I clicked, the resource was sold out. I don't envy those who managed to buy it and sell with profit on the market, I only don't see why the game design does not react to changing demands. If this is supposed to be an economy, the facilities should react. |
Well, we have a market, the facilities are just not part of them, because they don't react, they are rather something like a natural given factor. The market is between the players and there the price depends on supply and demand. |
that's true. I just don't see why the admins want the market to behave in this way, so I'm trying to find that out by discussing here.
Plus I can't see why anyone would think this way preferable, the only reason I can think of is that it's easier to program facility with a fixed price. Seems like a very very bad reason to me. |