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When a character hit level 5, it need 5 ammunition points EVEN to hunt, wich means he must hold a certain number of artifacts, that will cost more than the average prize of the hunt making it expensive. If player is prudent, it will not spare all the money on games. What have left to the player to earn some coins is work (as the real life), the "boring way".
If the player dont stay many times a day logged on the game, maybe "working for real", he have the choice to buy DIAMONDS, or donate for diamonds, whatever.
I think they could call the game FREE and give some money to the lords for donation. Maybe it would be fair... Who helps the game, receive a boost on time working on "production".
But theses diamonds buy more than that, it give additional advantages earlier on levels, and even other advantages that are impossible without them.
This makes the level battle unfair for those who don´t buynate the so expensive diamonds
Furthermore, lets say that if the player is just a lover of the game, and dont have "real money" to pay for the "diamonds", he will never play 2 factions if dont have the money needed to make even a basic castle.
And, if you don`t have "$10 euros" on the pocket, you cant even pay the minor benefits.
Why a donation is so expensive???
A guy like me that work on real life, loves the game (at least loved) and don`t have lots of money, can`t play a fair game called free. | for matheusalgarve:
When a character hit level 5, it need 5 ammunition points EVEN to hunt, wich means he must hold a certain number of artifacts, that will cost more than the average prize of the hunt making it expensive. If player is prudent, it will not spare all the money on games. What have left to the player to earn some coins is work (as the real life), the "boring way".
How hard is it to read and type codes? I'm doing mostly full arts battles and I don't have any financial issues...
This makes the level battle unfair for those who don´t buynate the so expensive diamonds
There are levels where diamond upgrades don't apply, where everyone is even whether they've donated or not. I understand that it's not exactly ideal (a game should be fair in all levels) but hey that's just the kind of things you learn to deal with playing with "free" games...
Furthermore, lets say that if the player is just a lover of the game, and dont have "real money" to pay for the "diamonds", he will never play 2 factions if dont have the money needed to make even a basic castle.
I don't know, man. I don't think I'm not doing too bad switching between factions and I've never donated a single cent for the game... | I don't think I'm not doing too bad switching between factions and I've never donated a single cent for the game...
I meant, "I don't think I'm doing too bad..." Sorry for the triple negation. XD | To topic creator,
I am guessing that the many group battles that you joined is the culprit that is actually draining your money. Hunts are generally breakeven kind of activity. At your level, if you equip a light axe + defender shield (which gives 5 ap), the cost per hunt should only be about 50-60 gold.
From my point of view, group battles are a time-waster and gives a a hell lot of exp (which is bad) when it does not enchance any important guild.
Furthermore, your labour guild is still low (multiplier x1). So it is no wonder you are complaining. Spend a month or so enrolling and hunting while minimising your group battles and you will probably be able to support yourself better financially.
In response to your diamonds gripe, I don't see it as an issue. If you pay, you get the benefits. If you don't, then why complain. This game does not force you to pay, and frankly, you really don't need to to enjoy the game. | yup. kiz is right. enroll many times. if u're just wake up in the morning, login here just for enroll. don't hunt if u don't have time. if you get LG like me, every time i inroll in mining facility, i get about 500 gold. That should cover your AP requirement.
About the diamond, when u help the admin to expand the game, then the admins give u to advance in game too. this is called a mutual symbiosis. | Furthermore, lets say that if the player is just a lover of the game, and dont have "real money" to pay for the "diamonds", he will never play 2 factions if dont have the money needed to make even a basic castle.
I've spent abt 350k on castles - game gold, everything. I'm about to spend 120k more XD
And I'm working as a smith (cost me 950k+ last time I counted) and my diamond input is minimal (when I had many too many orders in smith to cope with)
Saying the game isn't fair because it has some freebies for donators - well, show me a game of this quality that _doesn't_ have any. And there are plenty of games in which you can _never_ be on par with people who donate.
But then again,
matheusalgarve [5]
Laborers' guild: 0 (73) +17
this sort of thing is self-explanatory. | Not many "free" games actually are completely free.
Mony games such as this have the "donate and get an advantage" whether it be more money, power, levels etc.
At least it's not like runescape where you have to pay to experience the FULL game. | stop whining, you dont need to pay
Im almost level 8, still dont have much money troubles and i have never paid any euro this game | | *yawn* can we start locking these threads? They are all the same. "Boo I don't have enough golds." Anytime I have in-game financial issues it takes me less than a few hours to recover; and I don't really even try. | For your level you can have 5 AP that will cost 50-60 gold. The maximum of fights you can have are 4 (because of 15 minutes waiting time). That means the maximum of 240 gold each hour.
LG of 2 (can easy done by you) would give you at least 340 gold each hour. resulting in 100 gold more each hour. | for ipslne:
Lock this topic - and face [more] whining that evil mods don't allow honest forum community to speak up? No thanks. I think I'll leave this dubious honor to the topicstarter himself.
And, whining about whining is still whining ;) | My LG is 2 and i don't get 340 gold per hour... am i missing something?
to the author; u don't need to buy diamonds if u want good/fast money sell stuff on the market. | you don't need to be clever if you want to have gold income from hunt even when it requires min AP. (except if you have low HG, i think it will have less reward) 8 AP with the right arts costs less than 100 per battle, while at level 7-8 hunt will always get >100 gold (resource converted into gold)
For level 5-6 I'm too lazy to count how much the 5-6AP would cost, its your problem.
Better than just stating that we have to buy diamonds, why don't you ask some higher level players first, whether they have financial prob without diamond or not? | For level 5-6 I'm too lazy to count how much the 5-6AP would cost, its your problem.
Cheapest set for 5 AP (Def. shield + Light axe) costs just under 40 gold per battle.
My LG is 2 and i don't get 340 gold per hour... am i missing something?
LG 2 gives 1.5 productivity, which means that enrolling on mine with 180 gold wage you get in fact 270 gold. If yo enroll in facility with 205 gold wage, you get 308 gold. So, not exactly 340 gold per hour but still 50 more than basic salary (with LG 0) | | +14 That's 50% more, of course. | | oh... thx Shebali :) | And, whining about whining is still whining ;)
:( Good point; I concede ^^; | Saying the game isn't fair because it has some freebies for donators - well, show me a game of this quality that _doesn't_ have any. And there are plenty of games in which you can _never_ be on par with people who donate.
Shebali is absolutely right.
for matheusalgarve:
And, whining about whining is still whining ;) | Why a donation is so expensive???
Well, you can donate 1 Euro for 1 Diamond. That's 2500 gold.
Should I also mention that when you "donate" money, it is a selfless act in which you should expect nothing in return? There is no "price" for diamonds. The diamonds are given as a gift for donating. If you are unhappy with their gift then you have no reason to donate.
If there were any reason to donate it would be because you enjoy and would like to support the game. | I had almost answers of moderators, thanks for the great job in trying to erase my "whining" sooo fast.
How hard is it to read and type codes? I'm doing mostly full arts battles and I don't have any financial issues...
As hard as being at computer many hours, simple.
I don't know, man. I don't think I'm not doing too bad switching between factions and I've never donated a single cent for the game...
Maybe it is because you are a moderator. Sorry, but I NEVER saw a player Saying he has 2 castles. Only I see is "no way".
From my point of view, group battles are a time-waster and gives a a hell lot of exp (which is bad) when it does not enchance any important guild.
I am a experient player and I won many evenly duels to up fast and become a level 5 with not more than 130 fights. Now I play only group cause I have no chance to win a duel in my situation. I think you are saying I should play easier fights only to stay more time in a level to be financialy more prepared?
If I have a laborer`s guild low, it means I connected only in a range of 76 hours. If I would level 2, I could get more 15 coins/hour, great!
Well, I see I am really whining, cause I just play the same game as others, but it is not for experient players to get successful. It is a game to benefit who is working in months and "waiting" the time to duel, or paying for that time. Whatever...
Why dont let players reply and see what they think about?
Thanks again for attention and explanations. |
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