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AuthorFairness, Diamonds and a FREE Game
I had almost answers of moderators, thanks for the great job in trying to erase my "whining" sooo fast.

Weired phrase.. in more ways than one. There is only one mod replying to this topic so far, and she didn't [try to] erase anything you said.

As hard as being at computer many hours, simple.
Enrolling doesn't require spending many ours at PC :/

I don't know, man. I don't think I'm not doing too bad switching between factions and I've never donated a single cent for the game...

Maybe it is because you are a moderator. Sorry, but I NEVER saw a player Saying he has 2 castles. Only I see is "no way".


Hello? Grusharaburas https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4344302 - moderator?
No, he really isn't. Speaking of which, mods are players just like everybody is.

Sorry, but I NEVER saw a player Saying he has 2 castles. Only I see is "no way".

Then see here:
http://guildofheroes.ru/lords.php?levelst=1&levelfin=14&sort=25&napr=1&submit=s earch...&nick=

If I have a laborer`s guild low, it means I connected only in a range of 76 hours. If I would level 2, I could get more 15 coins/hour, great!

Great indeed. With LG 5 I earn three times more the wage sais. 600 gold per hour - not bad at all.

Why dont let players reply and see what they think about?

Sure, let's wait :) That's why the topic is still open after all. But if you think those who replied here already aren't real players - boy, you're wrong.
You need 36 gold for each fight. Just enroll once and you can fight 10 battles(+ hunts and merc quests later, because they earn for themselves)
There is player named Kusika, check his transfer log. He never needed any diamonds(or maybe I just cant find them). I am just gratefull that some guys are willing to pay for the server. You would like 10 banners and 20 pop-up windows for a "FREE" game.

In fact talking about castles, I have become bored at level 7 by the necro stuff. I have bought some buildings lately :-))). It is possible. Lets say all 200 000 I had fell for those buildings but its really fun. I like the game this way.
And note that I am not a moderator, in fact I am banned more often than its healthy..just a bad sense of humour..oh please not again, //flood, double post// please, Shebali, have mercy.
for Omega22:
Stop giving people bad impression of me :/

I only banned you 2 times (out of your 5 bans) and never for long. Never without a reason, too. And you should know by now that double posts aren't punished by ban :/

Unless it's an elaborate way of asking for one? ;}

Speaking of castle-switching - I'm planing to go wizard :) That's about 120k for basic buildings (no upgrade and no Magic Guild 2) But I should be able to get obsi-gargoyles after selling elements.

Should be fun :)
Have I ever said I am a victim of some collaboration? :-))
Problems with mods and bans should be discussed by private mail and non-responding secretary. :-)
For everyone Shebali is good and she is starting to like me. :-)

Speaking of castle switching Dark Elf will be next..180k..just enroll, buy, sell, hunt, sell, sell, enroll..headache. When you have 70k to spare, try barbarian, I really like that faction. Wizard is for now too expensive for me(mini arts and so), maybe later just for hunting and neutrals..
shebali: can you explain the 40 gold per fight with l/axe and D/shield? When i calculate, i see that just the shield is 3300/40=82 something golds per each use..?

However, matheusalgarve: I disagree with your complains.

I am a player, i use no diamonds, am no moderator or other staff member, and work IRL about 12-15 hours a day 5 to 6 days a week (I am a cook). And on top of that, i have a *HUGE* negative in roulette.

With all this, i can play, and afford decents arts, with little to no problems just by thinking labourer guild, buying stuff that i later sell to the facilities, and so on. Most of my fight are hunts or hunt assists (done for free, if you wonder), often merc quest, rarely a duel or a group fight (that i usually loose ^^" ).

And i have 2 castles, 1 wizard, 1 DE (that i didn't upgrade for a while, since am not playing DE anymore in order to keep up with the wizard racial).

Does this opinion count on the balance?
shebali: can you explain the 40 gold per fight with l/axe and D/shield? When i calculate, i see that just the shield is 3300/40=82 something golds per each use..?

shield: 35%x3300/40=28,875
light axe: 35%x870/25=12.18

u get 65% gold back from selling 0 dura item
I am a experiened player

QFE


Also you are level 5. When I was level 5 I would do every merc mission that came across. Now I'm 24th highest elf. Just because you gain "experience" does not make you an experienced player. An experienced player will take any challenge that you find; even if you know you will lose. That way you can learn how to handle tough situations.

Why dont let players reply and see what they think about?

I hope you don't disregard my opinion since I disagree with you. I _am_ another player after-all.

Maybe it is because you are a moderator.

Moderators get absolutely no special bonus and are recruited amongst everyday players like you and me.
for telca:

Like aRU said - you get about 65% of artifact cost back when you sell it in your inventory (when it hits 0 durability)

I'm saying 'about' because it varyes for different artifacts.

There's a table you could use, to compose cheapest sets. Here:

http://www.warriors-guild.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=333
oh, of course, forgot to think of the fact that we can sell them back!
(mainly because i am trying myself to the delicate art of repairing.. :D )

thanks aRU and Shebali:)
I get a 404 error when using that link (and for www.warriors-guild.org in general).
http://www.warriors-guild.org/

Works for me :/
o_O it's because there was no http or backslash? Those are the only two differences... without both of them it doesn't work o_O
shield: 35%x3300/40=28,875
light axe: 35%x870/25=12.18

u get 65% gold back from selling 0 dura item


Iif i dont want to try a very fast click and buy one shield on blacksmith, I have to pay about 3600-3700 gold for one. And the price to sell it broken is about 1600.

So, I dont have not even 50%, how can you tell it is 65%. You may not consider the other resources costs, or your statistics page may be needing a debug.
Iif i dont want to try a very fast click and buy one shield on blacksmith that's your problem, not table's. The only 'debuging' I can think of is lowering the prices, since we now have a sourse of cheaper mercury (366 as opposed to 369) but I think I'll wait with recalculations, just in case we get new mines too.

And I have specificaly pointed out that sell price is not always 65%, not that it matters if you pick market price as a base.
I think what to do to all players here is to find some cheap arts that fill 5 AP ... that's all and FINISH .. Light axe + defender shield ..

Also try to work as often as possible .. and at level 1 - 4 that should be done .. then at leve 1 - 4 do not level too fast ...

Best regards,

Randhy
Most people that have access to the internet and play games can be categorized into 2 major categories.
1) These people don't work, they are usually students or kids or just unemployed. Most of those people don't really have much money but they do have a LOT of free time. They can enroll blabla and do many fights etc etc and level up fast and become successful in this game. There are many examples in this game of such people.
2) People in this category work. They definitely have a LOT less time than category one people but they usually have more money. They can use their extra money to catch up on category one people on the game and be competitive vs them.

Most browser games offer this possibility for both categories. The game is still considered free as you can do stuff without paying ( and this game in particular offers a LOT more without money compared to other games of its kind - most of the other browser games i tried so far are virtually unplayable without paying some money or at least don't offer access to full content ( no matter how much time you spend ) ).

Another point is this: some people have this game as their entertainment. They choose to pay say 25 euro to get t2 upgrade earlier and without in-game gold, and that makes them powerful = they enjoy the game more. Let's say player A is of that kind. Some other guy, player B, plays this game without paying anything and decides to spend his 25 euro to go to the cinema and a club or some live strip-show or whatever. Should player B have the same fun in this game like player A? I would really vote for no in that question. Player B had his fun elsewhere, now it's time for player A to demolish him in a battle and have his share!

Of course there are people that work and dont have money to spend on entertainment, but noone said life is fair and since these games are somehow a depiction of life in many ways, they are not fair either.

To close this rambling post, there is also another category of gamers in general. Those guys are somehow just "not good gamers" ( couldn't find a more polite expression to describe them ) and they fail on every game they try to play. Some of them fail a bit, others fail completely. They still appear on forums of the occasional game though and post questions why this and why that, whine for everything and trying to blame other people or conditions for their failure. I'm playing online games for many years now and such people exist in ALL the games I've seen so far. The best way to handle such people is simply ignore them ( though sadly game creators/supervisors don't have such luxury ).
And with this, I believe, the thread can be locked.
closed by Shebali (2009-01-20 22:28:05)
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