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(chicken reading dictionary)
Chicken:I knew it!"chicken" does come first!
(another groan) | | | i agree 100% | | Lucid-Naz lol.. stop smoking that stuff... | which side are u on eektor?? its very confusing
the chicken or the egg | | the egg :) | Well just to state a fact I never said I believe or disbelieve in God. I simply stated I believe in a higher power and I believe creation was make thru intelligent design. I half believe the martians made the chicken as an inside joke,
Martian" You know what would be funny, if we make other stuff taste just like chicken too."
Other Martian " Uh yeah, are you gonna pass that or keep on talkin?"
@64
Ain't no stuff to smoke, Kansas is dry as a bone:(
To get on with the point, I don't believe that in 7 days the whole complete Earth was created. A house fly lives for 24 hours, its whole life and to us, its Tuesday. So for a being ,as stated in the Bible, that is beggining and end, there is no time. Time is a man made thing as we are finite in the flesh. So if the creator did something and then stopped, it could be interpreted like a work shift in a human day. So as the Earth is far older than any human fossil, of course it took billions of years to create but what is a billion years to someone who exists in all factions of time, past,present and future?
Thing is, as I stated previously, as far as the concept of evolution being the chosen tool of creation, where are the transitional fossils. By that I mean, ok this was the fossil of this fish, then here is fossil of it with bumps and here is fossil with bumps now arms and legs etc...
In all dinosaur cases, species completly died out, and new ones just *shazaam!* came into being. Any dinosaur documentary will always lack the transitional stage fossils to prove the theory, thats why its still a theory and not a fact,of evolution. Look it up for yourself. If you find a sight that is making a liar out of me then let me know as I am always looking to broaden my horizons.
As far as the Bible itself goes its purpose is for us humans to know about God and our relationship with him, written by inspired humans for all humans. It is not meant for research in unlocking all the mysteries of the universe or it would of spoken of the dinosaurs. And if you read the first verse (forgive me as I will have to paraphrase this for I don't remember it word for word) the world was dark and void. For believers, everyone knows God creates perfect and does not half do anything. Thus for, when it speaks of Him shaping and molding the Earth it is speculated that he was REcreating the Earth as He already made it but now it was dark and void. The Heavens refers to not only Gods dwelling place but the sky itself, our atmosphere. Therefore, after the event that finished off the dinosuars for good (well, most of them) the Earth was ravaged and here came God to make it over again by breathing new life over the span of millions of years.
Furthermore it is speculated that the war between Him and Lucifer, now Satan, where "a third of the heavens fell" is what cuased the actual mass extiction of the dino's. By the way if you want to know why he created dino's, what do you think we put in our cars to make them go? Thats right fossil fuels.
Therefore, chicken:P | | chicken FTW!!! | by the way my last post was for eektor
@ 68 what isFTW!!! | it is impossible to say which one came first with the given information.
there are actually 4 outcomes of this question and they are all correct, given that the needed information is not at hand.
* If the egg is not necessarily of any specific type: Then it could be said that the egg came first, because other animals had been laying eggs long before chickens existed, such as the dinosaurs. In biology, egg is used as a general term in this way.
* If only an egg that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: Some animal other than a chicken laid the first chicken egg which contained the first chicken. In this case the chicken egg came before the chicken. In reality, many scientific theories suggest that this would not have been a simple event. For example, the theory of Punctuated equilibrium theorizes that the actual speciation of an organism from its ancestral species is usually the result of many mutations combined with new geographical surroundings, called cladogenesis.
* If only an egg laid by a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: The first chicken (which hatched from a non-chicken egg) laid the first chicken egg. In this case the chicken came before the chicken egg. Again, this would not necessarily be a straightforward event.
* If only an egg that is laid by a chicken and that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then the first chicken came from a different type of egg (not a chicken egg) and laid the first chicken egg. In this case eggs (in general) came first, the chicken came after, and the chicken egg came last.
so please give more info when asking this question, as there is no correct answer to it. | FTW = for the win. in other words, i agree.
though i think that some people must be really bored to look so far into this question. | 67
If you say you believe in a higher power or intelligent design then you believe in a God. It might not be the same God as the Christians or Muslims or whatever religion but you do. Just curious, would you consider yourself agnostic?
Another point, time is not man made. How we measure time is man made.
Now about transitional fossils. The reasons why it is hard to find transitional fossils is that conditions need to be perfect in order to find fossils period. A very small percent of all the animals that died actually get perserved and as time goes by that percent gets smaller and smaller. So to find three complete fossils that shows some kind of transition will be harder than winning the lottery 3 times in your life.
Yes the theory of evolution is a theory and not a fact. In fact I just read an article that said that Darwin could have been wrong. That doesn't mean he was completely wrong but just means that with new evidence that came up, perhaps they will need to change the theory to better explain the evidence.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/180103?gt1=43002
I do agree with you about the purpose of the Bible. As for the recreation of the earth, that is highly speculative and very controversial. Then you would have to ask when did this recreation occur after the cretaceous extinction event (when the dinosaurs were wiped out) or perhaps after the permian one (right before the dinosaurs ruled the earth) or perhaps there was multiple recreations.
Oh and fossil fuels are made from compressed plant life over millions of years not from dinosaur fossils. | fossil fuels are made from compressed plant life over millions of years
oops. dur dur duurr. I don't know where I got that from, should stay awake better in class.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/180103?gt1=43002
Thanks for the info, will check out tommorow.
time is not man made. How we measure time is man made.
yeah, maybe I should have been more elaborate, but that was what I meant when I wrote that.
would you consider yourself agnostic?
yes
If you say you believe in a higher power or intelligent design then you believe in a God.
Not really. I know atheists that believe aliens made us as an experiment of some sort, can't remember right now why, been awhile, but that they (aliens) are equally mortal but just smarter therefore not to be worshipped but grateful as a child to its parents for being created.
to find three complete fossils that shows some kind of transition will be harder than winning the lottery 3 times in your life.
well at least for the lotto part there is actually a chance as the lotto actually exists and the bones don't. | | Chicken | | both | Ok let's take it on a religious note or atleast away from science.....
I am a religion lover and I believe 100000000000% in my religion, and so it says god first created The real Specimen and only then its Reproductive part and so it's clear The HEN REALLY CAME FIRST | I would say none of them come first, since it's a cycle we'll never know which come first.but It's hen. I "answer", dont think ;)
eggs - hen - eggs - hen
geez dizzying me.... | | The chicken because God made it | | 'Which' came first! | | lol you are right |
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