| Author | Blacksmith as a job |
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So my idea is that we remove blacksmith from all castles, and instead set them up as jobs on the map. You are still allowed access to the blacksmith in the exact same way however the gold spent on repairing and enchants go into the blacksmith on the map.
Now their will be a big difference to enrolling at a blacksmith then other jobs, instead of giving labor experience, it will give smith guild experience for the amount you are payed. I am thinking smith guild initial payment should be 100 gold maybe even lower. So if you have labor level 0 you only get 100 gold. And so on as your labor guild level up.
So idea, in list form.
Blacksmith removed from castles put on map and gain the gold from repairs.
Blacksmith work regularly on map still providing same features.
Blacksmith enrolling gives no labor guild experience.
Instead it gives smith guild experience equal to how much gold you are payed.
Being payed is affected by labor guild.
Blacksmith guild base pay should be 100 gold or less. |
| Excuse me but... Why? |
I like the idea but I would do differently.
- you go to the smith and pay the cost for repair
- the repair is 30% + 5%/combat level (up to the max of 90% as today)
- smith will need steel, nickel, wood, sulphur, etc. - this way we need them and the economy moves - maybe even new mines can be set (coal for example)
- the smith will also need helpers that will be paid in gold as usual |
what's the advantages?
1)There are many smiths here, so how to choose the service from the smith that I want?
2)So smith can just enroll in the "blacksmith" on the map and don't do any works?
3)For max smith, do you think they like the idea? |
it SOUNDS like a good idea, but i doubt how it will work. still, it is a noted idea...at least jobs wont run out and experienced smiths can ply their trade more effectively =)
3)For max smith, do you think they like the idea?
I think they would if they can gain from it, dont you think? |
1)There are many smiths here, so how to choose the service from the smith that I want?
In response to 4 who didn't understand. People who enroll at the blacksmith will not be repairing anything for anyone. The repairing system will still be the exact same way. Except people will be allowed to enroll at the blacksmith for very low amount of gold and low amount of experience.. And without enrolling you can repair items and enchant items regularly.
2)So smith can just enroll in the "blacksmith" on the map and don't do any works?
The amount of experience you get from enrolling is extremely small considering it takes 100,000+ gold to get repairing up. This is more or less a small way of making a dent in a other wise giant sum of money. And making sure that even if their is no jobs in your area you can enroll and wait till next job become available. |
dont get it:
by enrolling in this facility how many smithing exp will you get? 1 the same like labour guild? or (1/4000)*100*labor guild? |
I think they would if they can gain from it, dont you think?
but they invested literally MILLIONS of gold into their smith guild level, and now according to this suggestion other smiths can gain 100 smith guild points AND gain 100 gold there, so in 400 hours they could reach max smith, which is hardly fair to the people who spent millions investing in their smith guild |
| how about a community of them like u join them up altogherter and they put the price and stuff on and how much and what there smith guild is then a player would go to that place and chose who they won't maybe? |
but they invested literally MILLIONS of gold into their smith guild level, and now according to this suggestion other smiths can gain 100 smith guild points AND gain 100 gold there, so in 400 hours they could reach max smith, which is hardly fair to the people who spent millions investing in their smith guild
I second that.
Besides, in every heroes game the blacksmith was a building in castle, not some additional map thing. |
and now according to this suggestion other smiths can gain 100 smith guild points AND gain 100 gold there, so in 400 hours they could reach max smith,
Wrong I said 100 gold worth of experience which is NOT1.00 smith experience big difference. Instead it gives smith guild experience equal to how much gold you are payed. That does not equal 400 hours of enrolling and you are done. It is still a dent in a massive amount of gold.
So say you enroll and you get 100 gold. I am not 100% on the system but that would equal .10 smith experience. I never said you will get 1.00 experience. I said amount of experience equal to how much gold earned according to the smith experience earning chart. So it will still cost you millions of hours of gold enrolling to get smith up. |
I never said you will get 1.00 experience. I said amount of experience equal to how much gold earned according to the smith experience earning chart.
You said no such thing.
Instead it gives smith guild experience equal to how much gold you are payed. |
| -1: what would you do with smith experience? |
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why do we want smith experience instead of gold? |
"but they invested literally MILLIONS of gold into their smith guild level"
all the smiths i see make everyone else pay for everything plus 10% it sounds more like they are literally MAKING MILLIONS of gold |
| you are wrong, everybody below the 9th smithing level, asks less then 100% of the repair cost. Only people with 90% efficiency ask more then 100%, what is normal. |
for 4themassive:
Wrong. I'm only a 50% smith and only ask for 50% most time sometimes even less or free. I can say the same for most other active smiths around my efficieny levels. |
| At the moment 1 point in smith guild costs 4000 gp. (repairing stuff what repair costs is 4000 gp you get 1 point in smith. guild) |
| -11111 bad idea |
I don't like the author's idea about making smiths merely a job, BUT! Using resources - nickel, leather, mithril instead of gold, OndaNera's idea is great :)! It surely will cause a huge shift in economy of Empire, but will make the game process more authentic :)!
PS also i would like the smithy to be a separate animated room, like a castle, not a mere white page - just for fun :) |
