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AuthorBad sportsmanship
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=17101685

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485108911&lt=-1

EW members ruined these two battles by making alliances from the start based on clan they're in.

battle 1, where DE is protected by wizard and necro until there 3 players left (all EW)

cooperating over skype in the second battle

proof:

# Date: 2009-12-05 20:28:57
# From: Xerfer
# To: Korzika
# Subject: Re: you're a cheater?
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I wouldn't do it if demons actually stood a chance in this tourney. But as is, the only way to get anywhere is with a clanmate. If I was knight, necro or wiz, I would play alone. Or, if the factions were balanced in this tourney, I would play alone. Even if I wasn't on Skype with selfist, the other EW wouldn't attack me. And... just out of pure strategy, not "cheating" I wouldn't want more enemies, considering I have a very hard time not being the first out as demon.

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Even if I wasn't on Skype with selfist, the other EW wouldn't attack me. proves that they were cooperating over skype in a blindfold. i call that a bad sportsmanship.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=17127077

4 EW members working together. plus, hexagram giving free fsp to tzarlax in the end
"Hi guys and gals,

Sorry for the final message in this thread, because you won't like it: as official says, EVERYTHING IS OKAY. No matter how awfully and unnatural teams occur during the course of battle, it's all "fine" (at least rule-wise.)

This has been stated by administration.

No surprise this tournament was called the "rat-tournament" on .ru.

So, by definition I'd say, there can't be no staged battle in this tournament, and I'm therefore locking the thread. If you don't agree with that, remember I'm only the messenger, and write to Secretary..."

1.Ability to read is important.
2.Dont judge when you havent tried joining tournament alone after all this slander against EW.
3.I find your profile highly insulting apart from the fact that you have few dozen names missing.
4.What part of this is fun for us? Have to work together to even stand a chance through 1st round? I have no intention on winning this tournament so I would love to kill everything around me and then get out with some fsp, because thats what DE does like.
5.Try watching teams Rado, Keepsaker, Plas and djfranki or Dark Alliance teams in action before making judgements.

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485124254&lt=-1
1) then learn to read.. it's not a staged battle, it's bad sportsmanship.
2) i have no clan related prejudice and i played this same tourney on .ru
3) i've changed it. it's somewhere between those shady lines of legal, i hope.
4) your problem
5) i will, i didn't have enough time.. but i will make your lives a bit more miserable for what you did.
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Reopened case because I read it wrong. :/
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485124254&lt=-1

link is previously posted by Omega22 in post 3.

QuaDoom, Laurelin, and Brilliant show bad sportsmanship.

for Omega22:
you kind of deserved that :)
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=485157225

again Dark Alliance members - bad sportsmanship
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https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485137821

3 EW members show bad sportsmanship. or is it good sportsmanship to their clan mates?
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yes it is a proper term:

https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1870413

and i won't take part in rat tourney.

and don't ask for respect, earn it!
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4399328

When we are at sportmanship and digging dirt, how would you look on Geht_Sterben and I_own_you_all, entering the tournament together while playing from one computer. These "brothers" have a history of staging ambushes.
Ok, although this post doesn't belong here i think it would be good that i write it anyway, to spare myself of repeating questions of people discontent at being called "rats".

Rats:

i didn't make it up, it's already out there. it refers to people that use skype (or other instant messengers) to coordinate their moves in blindfold battles of the 2nd blindfold tourney. in this thread

https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1870413

i asked politely if it's legal to use it, and i got an answer from Omega22 (a mod, and a member of #266 LWM - Help and Reference) that it is legal to use it.

My position:

i am not a law enforcer AKA keeper, i am not a prosecutor, i cannot advocate for or against any rats. i am just a "citizen", a regular player. i don't have to provide all the evidence, i have a right to provide links of suspicious battles. so, when i'm suspicious that it's bad sportsmanship, i post the link here. keepers should look into it and see if it's worth their while. and i am not posting just anything that comes to my hand, or else there would be more than 100 links already.

My profile page:

since i am not a keeper, and i don't have any sort of privilege or obligation of an extraordinary player, "innocent until proven otherwise" doesn't count if i am concerned. i don't need hard evidence, i need a bit of logic, few battles where u spare your clan friends until others are out, to put you on my rat-list on my profile. what can you do about it? when i am asked by a keeper to change my profile info, i'll do it.

Respect:

your reputation is as far as i am concerned 10 in the beginning. as soon as you start playing as rat, it goes down to 0, and don't keep on asking me to respect any rat. because i've been asked to more than once.

Help:

you are free to add suspicious battles to this thread. if you think that it's case of bad sportsmanship.

just to add something:

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485160877

DA members, this is really sad :(
This battle looks more than a little fishy to me:

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485188179

Purple knight not going after green necro despite necro being the biggest threat and coming after me even though I have a higher faction level than him. It turns out that the top 3 in this battle are all from Dark Alliance.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485130676

3 EW members, more than obvious cooperation.
and i won't take part in rat tourney.

apparently, this no longer true :)
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485207298

2 dark alliance members prove that there should be 1 man per war clan allowed in one blindfold battle for the sake of good gaming!

last_one and archerblade - bad sportsmanship, playing like rats.
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