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Authoropen letter to admins
online gaming is all about human relations.

your policy to push people buying diamonds is backfiring.

survival tourney = isolated player vs AI.
more survival, less group battle.
pls find a way to increase group battles.

game currency (gold) earning methot : enrolling every hour
spoils the fun of game (a 3x3 group battle takes longer than 1 hour, so no money = no GB)

* Please think about making enroll duration 2 hours not 1. *

no one opens enhanced weapon group battles because too costly.
work penalty was actualy good idea, but made life too hard for some high levels.. since not enuf GB available, they quit.

If high levels keep quiting, dont expect any(or reasonable) diamond revenue from mid levels.

I will realy hate to see if the game (I spend months of online time ) disappears, but I'm afraid thats the way it goes.
Selfist is right: this game has a great problem.
This is an online game in which pvp is not incentivated. Why fighting against some humans opponents without a reward, rather than doing 2 mercenary quests and 1 hunt,which can give you golds and mybe an element (or 2)?

I'm beginning to find this game boring, and it is a pity. I reached level 12, and i thought that things could be different here, but it is always the same story. Survival tournaments are nice, sure, but not as nice as fighting another PLAYER, with a brain. Fighting ai is relatively boring.

Selfist suggestions are oo enough, I don't have to add anything to them. But please, do something to make pvp worth for everyone. This should be a game, not a second life.
Badly needed is a PvP incentive.

Also-- Luckas, try opening a GB instead of looking for one. People do join.
..maybe something like a PvP guild or Battle guild..
get points for PvP battles
with lvl's just like we have in the other guilds..
Xerfer, the problem isn't opening a gb or not - it's "Is it worth to do it"?

I could open all the group battles of this world, but i cannot say that they are good for finances.
Agree. I wrote it many times, we need some stimulation for pvp. I think regular pvp tournaments are the right way to go.
well playing gb you get a lot of exp and fsp but i agree that would make gbs more interesting if there would be more than exp and fsp.
Like you said, Tas, you can get exp and fsp from mercenary quests, hunts and ambushes. But you can also have golds from them (and maybe an element, if youare lucky enough). But it would be nice to get the same from fighting other players, which is more challenging than slaying wave after wave of mindless ai monsters.
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another important thing is that updates should be come come in a uniform period . it is good to have updates like consecutive tournaments but the time when there is no tournament and updates for long time i felt bored
I think the main reason that few people join GB is not because of no award. The high exp and fsp award is good enough. If you introduce gold award in duel or GB, I believe there would be a lot more staged battles and admin will have a hard time to get things under control.

The reasons why there is few GB here are:

1. Not enough players active. Even though at peak time everyday, the number of players online is always smaller than 1500, the lowest could be 400 or something. That's a trivial number compared to .ru

2. The GB cost too much time and is sometimes hard to win to receive high exp, although the fsp is good. A GB usually takes more than 1 hour, and people can to a hunting, a TG and a MG quest during this time. And most importantly not everyone is available to stay in front of the computer, staring at the screen but do barely nothing for one hour...

I have to say I love pvp, especially group battles, and I would like to see more people enrolling in combats, but I dont think it is a good idea to introduce gold award into GB. That would lead to something bad, but not increasing the amount of pvp activity.
There are much more worrying stuff than that.. Seriously, name another game where people have been stuck in battles for over I dunno 120hrs and still no response from admins?
The GB cost too much time and is sometimes hard to win to receive high exp, although the fsp is good. A GB usually takes more than 1 hour, and people can to a hunting, a TG and a MG quest during this time. And most importantly not everyone is available to stay in front of the computer, staring at the screen but do barely nothing for one hour...


QFT ^^ and I'm adding the fact that you get bored waiting for your turn.

+ map gets too crowded especially when playing against demons with an appetite for gating. it would be interesting to see a group battle on the big map(the one from the caravans).

+ they favor faction switchers. faction specialists are the underdogs.

+ you depend on other players. fighting only with players you know well it's hard to achieve due to the time problem. I usually play when I can, not according to a schedule.

+ money(enchants) can buy you victory.

+ factions are not balanced.

Survival tournaments are nice, sure, but not as nice as fighting another PLAYER, with a brain. Fighting ai is relatively boring.

Depends how you look at it, you can take it as a solo fight, or as contest with other players. Finding out the right path is anything but boring or easy.

In the end it's a matter of choice. Some people enjoy one part of the game, some other parts.
In the end it's a matter of choice. Some people enjoy one part of the game, some other parts.

That is very true and a good way to please everyone would be to give similar bonuses no matter what path you choose to take in this game.
Or maybe another way is you can only join a duel every one hour and a group battle every other 3 hours. Then introduce some gold bonus to avoid too many staged battles.
Or make a PvP guild like the GG that allows you to bet gold (from less to more) depending on your PvP guild. People will be motivated to play to increase the limit of the gold they can bet and for the gold when they will be able to bet.
Actually, I think admins did a lot to promote PvP... PvE battles bring only 20% of normal experience, and FSP are capped to 0.5. That's pretty weak. Plus, they are as demanding as any battle artifact-wise. And there is also sideline PvP experience, as joint hunts and ambushes. Not exactly what people prefer but definitely not some AI battle.

True, PvP games bring "nothing" apart great experience and faction points, while PvE brings various bonuses (Guild advance, Elements, small gold, etc.)

Addition of PvP exclusive rewards could greatly enhance the demand for such battles. I can imagine a Battle Guild or something where you would get +1 point per player beaten, as long as they match your level. One could not get more than 1 point per player, no matter how many times he would beat the same opponent. That would prevent cheating.

Rewards and scale are left to admins, but almost anything would do.
When the dragon time was it was GREAT pleasure to fight in teams against AI. I think it is the best way to do it.
Bonuses:
You still fight in a team, and total combat time is reduced because opposite team will move instantly.

I personally start to find boring this game... :( yes and PvP 3v3 takes more than 1.hr (so if i have chose to join battle or wait 15 min for enrollment I wont join battle.)
When the dragon time was it was GREAT pleasure to fight in teams against AI.

Agree. There are a lot of such events on .ru, like dwarf wars, and the recent seige war. But it looks like admin dont want to bring them here.
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