| Author | # of attacks with talent "Concentration" |
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I was wondering how many "preventive" attacks can a stack do with this talent.
In the description it says "the defeing troops ALWAYS retaliate..."
Does this mean that, for example, defending ogres will retaliate more than once per turn if they are attacked by more than one stack? |
The description of concentration is completely terrible as hell.
As far as I know if you have the talent and defend with a stack and an enemy wants to attack you.
Then you attack BEFORE they hit you (so some kind of an early retaliation) and only ONCE.
So if you have 10 rocs that defend, and an enemy comes with 50 wolfraiders and attack your rocs.
Then rocs will hit 50 wolfraiders first. After that the wolfraiders (whats left of them) will hit the rocs three times. Then some hobgoblins attack the rocs, and just the usual stuff happens. Hobgoblins hit rocs and rocs dont do anything.
I think it works like this, not 100% sure though. |
Then rocs will hit 50 wolfraiders first. After that the wolfraiders hit the 1st strike, rocs will counter again and follow with the rest 2 strike from wolfraider.
Then some hobgoblins attack the rocs, and just the usual stuff happens. Hobgoblins hit rocs and rocs dont do anything.
but it suppose allow the rocs to attack hob again before hob attack while do nothing after hob attack. |
Look at this "test duel" Pang.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=5333818<=-1
Watch the wolf raiders (red) in the upper left corner. They defend.
First rocs(blue) attack them, result
Wolf Raiders (red) deal 189 damage to Rocs.(blue) 3 perish.
Then:
Wolf Raiders (blue) deal 95 damage to Wolf Raiders. (red) 6 perish.
Wolf Raiders (blue) deal 92 damage to Wolf Raiders. (red) 7 perish.
Wolf Raiders (blue) deal 88 damage to Wolf Raiders. (red) 6 perish.
So .... if you defend you still only retaliate ONCE. And that is BEFORE the enemy hits you instead of AFTER. Thats the only change....
(not sure how this works against "no retaliation units" |
| read my post again. according the description, it 'SUPPOSE'. |
Then rocs will hit 50 wolfraiders first. After that
the wolfraiders hit the 1st strike, rocs will counter again and follow with the rest 2 strike from wolfraider.
you also said that. And thats not true. |
| If unit1 defends and unit2 attacks, then unit1 will retaliate before unit2 hits. If unit1 has unlimited retaliation ability it retaliate twice, before and after enemy atacks. |
What about creatures with unlimited retaliation.
I heard that they retaliate twice, once before the attack and once after. |
What about creatures with unlimited retaliation.
Only barbarians can get this talent, for other factions you need to be level 17-18 or something like that in order to get the talent concentration.
And barbarians dont have units with unlimited retaliation. |
What about creatures with unlimited retaliation.
Did you read post 7? |
| Fail of the day? ^^ |
| ok, not counter... perhaps i should say roc will attack again before hob attack |
