Author | Help with Knight |
Hi
I'm a level 3 Knight and i need help :( I keep losing all my battles. Can someone give me a few tips? I have 1 Farmer 18 Swordsmen and 21 Bowmen |
Tips:
1). Use better artifacts.
2). Increase you faction skill level. With your lvl Knight: 0 (14.78) +5.2 you don't get any increasing of troops, which is very bad.
3). Try to fight versus opponents which are easiest factions versus knight (for training your tactic) |
@Yuri What factions are easiest to face with Knight? Thank you for the first two tips. |
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Well, at yor level they are, in my humble opinion, necros (if they won't get luck on ghosts), demons, may be DE-s. |
Definitely barbs... because of their Large creatures... |
nope necros too powerful i suggest to
2). Increase you faction skill level. With your lvl Knight: 0 (14.78) +5.2 you don't get any increasing of troops, which is very bad.
and also
4.Develop strategies Like to split bowmen and also pitch it hard on initiative based arts which would definitely give u an edge
5. group combats are the key stop dueling and stary grouping and then u would know the true power of swordsmen |
Definitely barbs... because of their Large creatures...
I am not agree with you here. Orcs can easily kill bows and knight will have to gove forward, on the wolves double strike.
5. group combats are the key stop dueling and stary grouping and then u would know the true power of swordsmen
i'll give as advice battles "everyone for oneself", because knight can easily survive in them because of huge hp. |
True! and also you could move your swords forward instead of holding them back i know that you think that u will do better if swordsmen atk first but their hp and defence is so high so that it wont make any difference except against ghosts [Player banned by moderator DragonEater until 2011-10-07 03:54:09 // posting with multi/warning] |
Ima Knight too! xcept im lvl 1 ...
bump i guess
sorry cant help ye [Player banned by moderator merlin36 until 2011-10-06 15:46:54 // don't bump threads] |
Play duels against all factions. there is nothing wrong in losing. at lower lvls any faction can beat any faction. this statement will not be true unless u play against them and learn how to defeat them. |
Guys let me interrupt a bit here.
Barbarians have full advantage agains't knight, only a beginner and very crazy guy can lose this fight. Avoid fight agains't they.
Necro is a balanced faction both can win, but don't exist "lucky" for ghosts, just try get the perfect hit skill and you never will have any problem.
Demon looks balanced for me, if demon play right he gonna win easy...
Wiz They are a really easy prey.
Elvens They are a good target too.
DE are so strong and easy to play on levels 1-4 they can pwn everything...
Knight vs knight only will win the best.
I don't recommend you spend money in arts below level 5.
The best settlement for your troops are, Max swords, max bows, rest on recruits.
Use recruits to advance with your swords and take retail for em.
also recruits can be used to make walls and block units... to reach some points...
It's just a question about tactics you will learn this playing... So hands on work and good lucky. [Player banned by moderator DragonEater until 2011-10-07 04:49:59 // posting with multi/relapse] |
alright, there are lots of summaries here and let me just give few tips too sincei had a multi on lv 4 knight long time ago (which is abandoned now).
do not duel barbs. the scenario goes two ways-
orcs will never split since they are strong in melee too. if they split, they will do it on corners so you don't do volley. the reason barbs always win on most cases is orcs become threatening at the start, making you not concentrate on retal takers. bowmen will only aim orcs, but this is useless. you cannot win against orcs with bowmen. youll see lots of e.g. in my combat log. sword will smash thorugh wolves and you think that is the key to win, and THAT's WHY MOST PPL think theyll win against us. HELL NO. swords has low ini, low speed. wolves can't take out unless retal helps. now orcs will disrupt u from taking retal from heroes.. concentrate on getting retals. knights can win easily if you take retal with swords. now wolves are gone.....
YAY KNIGHTS WON! no. orcs have "no melee penalty". they will have 8-12 left, and sword will have 8-15 left too. 11 ini vs 8 ini- orcs get about two attacks in short times. sword needs to run, not attack. now most ppl attack too, they lost. there is one way knight can win against barbs:
don split bows. use swords to retal. main sword will kill wolf sometime. orcs left. run. now u win.
aps are for babies who don wanna lose in lv 1-4. get aps in group battles, not duels.
there is millions of tactics against other faction too, im just showing barb's one. |
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Only a crazy guy can lose with barbarian to knight.
First of all kill all bows with orcs
If he stand behind, waste all shots, then move wolfs + orcs together, also don't forget unti to take retail of swords and win the game.
So wait isn't a option.
If swords come, just use one stack unit to take retail and finish with wolfs. GG
Hard ins't? |
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that is off-topic but ill answer cuz ive wrote down a little differently from what ive thought.
i was saying that swords will kill wolves before orc's shots run out if they handle it well. bows will die by orcs easily but still bows will give some dmg to orcs too.
however, as u said barbs woudn't lose to knight if they can handle better and its actually easy to win for barbs, just that they arent always gonna win. thats what im sayin |
Which part of wait with wolf, take retail with 1 unit and finish with wolf stack you din't understand?
not off topic, i'm just showing the true to the guy ask for help here, for he don't believe on a missleading...
Wolfs stats
Initiative 11 Speed 6
Swords stats initiative 8 speed 4
I'll try explain what it's mean, more clear i can.
4 speed vs 6 speed, means swords NEVER will do first strike, or even can hide from wolfs.
11 initative vs 8 means wolfs got turn before swords and can make play to take advantages. Also every 2-3 turns wolfs will attack 2 times in same turn.
So it is 4 strikes for poor swords... NO ONE KNIGHT CAN SURVIVE IT.
Also the FSP initiative boost, works better on high initiate units like wolfs and worse to slow units like swords... So have a good chance wolfs attack 2 times every 2 turns. And if he wait he will attack 2 turns if swords moves.
So the CLEAR way, is...
Bowmans are a prey of orcs..
Swords are a prey of wolfs...
Game over. |
seriously y do u guys target orcs with bows? they can never harm them to much. target wolf with bows. they have only 1 defense. orcs need at least 3 turns to kill bows completely. meanwhile u can take 5 wolf or even more. but if u target orcs u can hardly take 3. wolf are not strong enough to take swords unless they take ret. also recruit 4 farmers not for taking ret. but mainly for enrage. once they kill ur 4 farmers and bows ur swords will get 5 bonus attack. u need not rush forward until ur swords get enraged. once enraged u need not worry orcs no melee penalty as ur swords will have way more attack and not to forget their defense :)
As i said earlier any factions can beat any factions at lower lvls |
@16 this is the best strategy to win, but still ins't enough, don't forget orcs can melee attack and they hurt alot, they can almost take swords alone on 1v1...
Also bowsmens can't kill all wolfs... Knights can win only if the barbarian suicide troops, or it's a fight with full ap agains't no ap. You can look replays for knight vs barb at level 3 - 4 knight gonna win only if barbarian do any mistake. So i don't think it's a good advice to him, try win a fight based on enemey mistakes... |
Yeah strategic game requires strategic mind howver if your a barb,
you can be .. non-strategic.
and maybe Def Knight cld take on barb?
no-one has seem to mention def/might knight bout vsing barbs |
3 defense or 3 attack (lvl 4)
Don't make a battle difference... Guys this is normal some factions have some advantage agains't others on some levels...
Like wizard vs necro on level 5 - 6, knight vs wiz lvl 3 - 4 etc.
So it ins't nothing absurd, just avoid battle with barbarian and focus on other factions. |
Don't discourage anyone guys. Thr is nothing wrong in losing. if he avoids battling barbs then he might face trouble during minor tournament. playing against other factions helps u see thr strength and weaknesses. losing doesn't matter. |