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AuthorAimed shot mess up?
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1912100

Does the spike cancel it? I had bless...
thats not the link man
80100? that was like 2 years ago
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=501807495

My bad... lol
I have not calculated the damage, but large shield means they only receive 50% range dam.

that might be the reason for the damage being less than you expect
for Khellendros:
I'll do it for you... 86*1.3*7*0.5 = 391.2 Not two hundred and something...
Some of your shots were definitely "aimed shots" in that battle. For the ones that weren't, perhaps you didn't aim right. They are large creatures, so maybe you aimed at the wrong square.
for Geryon:
Just referring to the first one, and was positive I aimed at the right square...
so maybe you aimed at the wrong square.
haha nice one
They are large creatures, so maybe you aimed at the wrong square.

this is a myth. i heard about it, and decided to test it out myself. no such thing as "clickng the wrong square" if part of the enemy is in range, then the ENTIRE thing is in range. and if only part of the enemy is in aimed shot, the ENTIRE enemy is in aimed shot. i tested it out when i was a holy knight. so with xbows with damage 8-8 there was no difference between clicking on the box "in range" and on the box not "in range"
Yay... deviating from topic though...
I think min damage should have been: 86 * 1.6 * 6.8 * 0.5 = 467
So something's definitely wrong there. I'm also wondering if it's the spike.
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=496301001&lt=-1

No problem here. The only important difference I see is the spike.

Of course, that's an oldish combat, a newer combat would probably be better.
maybe you aimed at the wrong square.

which gives quite a normal damage for 12 attack and 21 defense.

(but only if the RND(min, max) can have a non-integer result. If not, neither 7 nor 8 damage fits the 215 damage exacty. 7 gives 205 and 8 gives 237).
for Hallion91:
this is a myth. i heard about it, and decided to test it out myself. no such thing as "clickng the wrong square" if part of the enemy is in range, then the ENTIRE thing is in range. and if only part of the enemy is in aimed shot, the ENTIRE enemy is in aimed shot. i tested it out when i was a holy knight. so with xbows with damage 8-8 there was no difference between clicking on the box "in range" and on the box not "in range"

I think its the spike.. need confirmation..
MYTH refers to something that doesn't exist, it's just an act of imagination. Not shooting large stacks at 3rd tile with xbows and as a result not using aimed shot is a FACT. Please learn what words mean and then use them properly. I don't know if this isn't how it works for large creatures out of range (meaning you get range penalty), but it surely works that way TESTED (uuum, don't know if I need to explain what test means here too) for aimedshot.

You have always the right not to believe me and keep this thread open waiting for a wrong answer.

Good Luck, I got nothing else to say on this thread.

PS: Did I read spikes ? A terrain obstacle ? Oh yes I did, you may kill me now, I've seen everything I had to see in this world.

Spikes => Special ability : Even if you hit 700 damage it will reduce the ranged damage to 215.
for Hallion91:
Read the context of the post... if only part of the enemy is in aimed shot, the ENTIRE enemy is in aimed shot

I've tried that out myself too... So you don't have to aim at the right square..

I have no clue what your saying but it sounds like you're contradicting yourself... look at your post, first you define myth, then fact and then apply them to the same set of events..

So... erm... Let me see those 'tests' of yours where a unit was in aimed shot but you aimed wrong and so it didn't receive extra damage?
i do not know about aimed shot but what you told about "if part of the enemy is in range, then the ENTIRE thing is in range." is false

at least for necro - be it skel bowmen or lich - if aimed at wrong square it will be 50%

01234567
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BoooooXX
ooooooXX

B - bowmen
o - empty square

XX - large creature
XX

- Aiming in line at 6 will give full DMG - and only that square will give full

- Aiming at 7 or line below(any square) will give 50%

just watch bow icon when aiming - will give you broken arrow if aimed at wrong square
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=500661697&lt=-1

at the time I cast bless on my crossbows, I hit the boar riders on the next turn :

Hallion91 casts Bless on Crossbowmen for 6 turns.
Crossbowmen deal 2477 damage to Boar riders. 165 perish.

There you go. I show you the same battle I show to Gangstarr when he first heard of this "so-hard-to-believe" thing. Normal damage with aimedshot would be about 2765.

That was not the only time I tried it, many times I did before that battle and will keep doing until you've had enough.

I'm off this topic now, I don't care if you still have somthing to say on the terrain. Ask if the sky is dark, it may interfere with your aimed shot, oh wait, you can't see the sky there ... that's a bug right ? No, it should be that trees block xbow's view when put in corner.

Stupid me, why did I come back to check this post ? I already knew what I would see ... I have nothing against you, I just hate seeing guys full of sarcasm here that ask for my help and tips in PMs and after that they keep acting the same way here (no Nav, I don't mean you).

Good luck !
PS: I always read the context of a post I answer.

And
Not shooting large stacks at 3rd tile with xbows and as a result not using aimed shot is a FACT, not a MYTH

that's a fact: You shoot a large creature on a tile farther than the 3rd tile and you don't do aimed shot damage. Don't get me wrong.
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