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Authorgremys
as you all can see i am about to level up and wanna ask if gremmlin engineers are worth the money spent (i will be both might and magic)
yes they are worth it.
i feel at some time you will buy them so buy now only.

they have 1 more hp :P
more speed (tho useless)

but more imp is their initiative comes before strong shooters like elven bowmen etc.
Every creature is worth getting, though most wizards dont use them

To have max Gremlins you need to have minimal Gargs
And Gargs are very Important!!!
What makes the game interesting is the different tactics of the players. you can use gremlin engineers to fix golems but as shooters they are really weak. most wizards i know do not use them at all. its your choice
If u are a might wiz, grems are awesome
Gargs are mostly useless for might wiz though they can be good ret takers
Grems got good ini and are shooters
+ they can keep repair golems before their turns just like a necro raises his ghosts for attacking just b4 their turn
they r useless
totally wast of gold
i have never seen them being used
easy to kill
do low damage

repair is good but they repair too low number which makes them more useless
also forgot to tell only 1 repair = wast of money
i will rather have more garg or golems
What makes the game interesting is the different tactics of the players
Completely true! Might and Mage use different tactics, so it comes down to what you want to do!
can a link be given to a fight where gremmlin engineers have played a major role in victory
I have always been a wiz. I've upgraded gremlins as soon as they were available. I've never found them useful. I think they are a total waste of money.
they r useless
totally wast of gold
i have never seen them being used
easy to kill
do low damage


don't upgrade to it
@CL 5
the importance of upgrades goes this way
skel bows-->Hob goblins-->spawns--->recruits--->sprites-->gremlins-->poison
dwarf:-idk
"according to me"
i don't think the last 2 are much of help atleast not at CL 5
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if your a might DE you can surely manage it without poison
but when your mage ppl think they are more imp.
rouges can also be used in mage,its no big deal
n talk about retaliation
i never heard of banits & gremlins with "no retaliation" ability..
Dwarfs upgrade i played with on .ru for a while before they became available here

They would be equal to Skel Bows!

They abilities allow them to take very little damage and they are a nice pain :)

In any case don't upgrade to it
n talk about retaliation
i never heard of banits & gremlins with "no retaliation" ability..


Hum... Did you really had a look at gremlies stats?
https://www.lordswm.com/army_info.php?name=gremlin

If you can retal anything with gremlies before the end of a fight, you really deserve the title of master of strategy ^^ Even guards are better at it! Who would use guards to retal anyway?...

If u are a might wiz, grems are awesome
Gargs are mostly useless for might wiz though they can be good ret takers
Grems got good ini and are shooters
+ they can keep repair golems before their turns just like a necro raises his ghosts for attacking just b4 their turn

I would love to see a successfull might wiz with golems in action. Same for gremlies actually.

Back to level 5. I have seen a wizzard dealing decent damage with gremlies at lvl 5; along with repair, that makes it a decent unit for magic. Once you get e. garg, you'll simply put them in a cupboard hopping to never see them again. If you have stuff to repair, put them in that cupboard, that's the only thing nice about it, and it'll ensure you they won't try to escape from their cupboard (make sure you're using a secured lock or they'll dismantle it!). Else, they're small, ugly, and they stink. If you're a kind folk, you might want to walk a few occasionnaly. I never go out without my 6 gremlies as I'm concerned. Using more is a non sense IMO, though I love them. I still wonder who else on this server does though.
though I love them. I still wonder who else on this server does though.

I used to go hunting together with https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4403711, back in the day when we were both same level. Every time I did he used to insist I bring on a couple gremmies to take retal. He just loved the sound they did when they died!...
i would say it depend on how you define the 'worth'.

in term of combat performance, i failed to see how worth recruit is to help you in most of the combats.

in term of troops combat effective, recruit is so worth to get in to boost the troops amount[knight racial ability].
They are NOT worth that. Wizards dont use them.
I waited a long time before buying the gremlin engineers, thought they were useless too - but it all depends on your playing style.

I'm not a PvP player, that could be the difference between me and the people who are saying wizards never use gremlin engineers.

But I do use them, and am very happy with them now.

Against the AI, the enemy sometimes tends to attack my golems before attacking my engineers. So when the last golem goes down, I raise it with that one engineer I have, giving me one extra turn to survive (AI gets drawn back to the golem).
I used to go hunting together with https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4403711, back in the day when we were both same level. Every time I did he used to insist I bring on a couple gremmies to take retal. He just loved the sound they did when they died!...
And so, this is what you call love? :s
They are useful. They have high ini, and good speed to take retalation:

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=502856736&lt=-1

Now, I use my poor 5 golems... Anyway, its your choice. I would buy them again, if someday I need.
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