| Author | All about Barbarian's: Talents, Stats, Skills etc |
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| Citadel |
| agreed on citadel |
| But wont I get chastise & more power with ogremagi? |
| citadel :) |
ogre magi gives you chastize but i think is more important citadel giving you more troops.
Also not sure if you can do ambush without citadel.
Being barb your secondary faction is much better citadel, later when you have money can build ogre magi. |
| Thnx guyz :) |
| what is more favorable for barb Luck or Morale? |
what is more favorable for barb Luck or Morale?
Bot are good but I found usefull luck in CL 13 & 14 , for levels 12- i think is better morale.
Also luck is important in PvP and some hunts, for ST is always much better morale and for TG or MG morale again. |
when i reach lv 7, should i do adv morale for talents? so i can get 4 morale by art+talent+norm para? or 3 luck?
, for levels 12- i think is better morale. is this the answer? |
Here is what I think is basic guide to choose talents in CL 5 to CL 10
In lv 5 we have 10 point so we can choose between Basic Offense , B.Luck , B.Morale or T.M., T.M. only in PvP, for PvE we can choose all other.
In lv 6 we have 15 points so the choice is obvious , B.Offense + Battle fury or B.Offense + T.M. for PvP , but I think is better B.Offense + BF.
Battles fury is a must have for barb cos it boost +50% damage for hobs or wolfs.
In lv 7 we have a problem, 20 points is not enough to take 3 talents so we can choose: B.Offense + Battle fury , Adv.Luck or Adv. Morale. ( B.Luck + B. Morale is a choice too )
Here I think B.Ofense + BF is still a good choice , but we can try the luck or morale build. IMO morale is better than luck here but probably i still take BO + BF. ( +50% damage to hobs or wolfs is very usefull )
In lv 8 we have 25 points and the more points we have the more flexible we can do new strategies.
A) Adv. Offense + Battle fury for PvE
B) Basic offense + Battle fury + T.M for PvP mainly
C) Basic offense + Battle fury + Basic Luck
D) Basic offense + Battle fury + Basic Morale
C and D are the natural choices here , but D is my favourite , in a full arts set with 2 x rings of inspiration we have 4 morale, but C can be usefull in hunts or certain battles
In lv 9 with 30 points, the choice for me is obvious
Advanced Offense + Battle fury + Retribution
Take 2 rings of inspiration to reach 3 morale and barb become a real killer.
Lvl 10 with 35 points is very similar to lvl 9 with one main difference.
In lvl 10 we unlock Signet-ring of might , so we can choose to go with Signet-ring of might ( best in PvP ) or Ring of inspiration ( best in PvE )
A) If we take Rings of inspiration the the talents should be:
Advanced Offense + Battle fury + Retribution + T.M. ( for PvP )
Expert Offense + Battle fury + Retribution ( for PvE ) ( Best for ST )
B) If we take Signet-ring of might:
Basic offense + BF + Avd Morale
Basic offense + BF + Avd Luck
Advanced Offense + Battle fury + Cold Blade + T.M. ( Best for PvP )
Expert Offense + Battle fury + Cold Blade
Probably in lv 10 i choose Avd.Offense + BF + CB + TM with Signet-ring of might in PvP ( Rings have + 4% ini. so if you take Inspiration rings is possible some shooters kill your orcs before move )
And Expert Offense + Battle fury + Retribution for PvE or S.T.
We must fell free to try other combinations, who knows maybe you discover a new talent combo to break some hunt records, and everyone have a different play style so there is nothing 100% sure and maybe other talents/setup is better for you, just try ;) |
why do you people use hobs instead wolf raiders in ST?
i have limited attempts so i can't test it
that is why i am asking!
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wolves have more hp,ini,off n speed
so 50 wolves looks way better than 100 hobs.. |
There are 2 reasons
In ST you need to do all damage posible in one hit. 100 hobs with 3 damage does 300 base damage, 50 wolves with 3-4 damage do 150-200 base damage in first hit, yes overall with 3 strikes can do 450-600 base damage but the first hit is about 40% weaker than hobs hit.
I.E. a stack with 1000 HP. Hobs hit and does 1200 damage killing the enemy but if wolfs attack they do only about 700 damagein 1st hit, the enemy retal killing some wolfs and then 2nd and 3rd. strikes kill the enemy. This way in few turns you will loose many wolfs.
2nd reason, if take hobs you can take also full ogres but if you take wolfs only a few stack of ogres can be recruited and ogres are very necesary in ST. |
| also, wolves r large creature so maneuvering them is more difficult then hobs i think |
for WoodBox:
for reason 1
i think that,in a tourney with a combination of very strong n very weak instead of avg..
wolves must prove effective
for reason 2
if its much of a problem i think i shouldn't
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ok thanks for time :) |
| wolves will b really bad choice for tourny as they will b targeted fast & die quickly by retaliation. |
| what is best setup and talents for level 12 barb? |
sry for double
my main concentration is cg now
tell me according to cg not min ap gb or pve
so no retribution and all as i cant use medal of bravery or ring of inspiration |
1 more thing
does knockback reduce damage?
mostly every time ogres does knock there damage is low
is that true or just coincidence |
| coincidence |
what is best setup and talents for level 12 barb?
IMO , for CG is:
A) Expert Offense , Battle fury , archery + Basic Luck
B) Advanced offense , Battle fury , archery + Basic Luck + Thursting Might
Also archery or cold blade are interchangeable , but for me best is "B" and archery. Thursting Might with full arts is very nice.
About ogres agree with niranjan , just coincidence. |
