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| Author | [debate] why waste your time if it is just for enrolling? |
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Note: if for you this is a "TL;DR" topic, pass your way.
No need to show how better you are than the rest of the world, i'm sure you know it already, and nobody else cares.
For the others:
I am trying here to launch a *pacific*, but absolutely frank exchange, in the hope to shake a bit the general lethargy, because of an enormous problem this game is suffering from: its players logic.
Let me explain.
We are here, mainly, to fight each other, with hypotetical characters that have each some specific capabilities.
For this, your character start weak, at the beginning, and then it grows slowly but steadily into a stronger guy that ought to make your gaming experience more amusing.
Now, trying to set something up in CG (in my opinion, the most challenging PVP part, since with full art all characters are supposed to give their best), I get again messages like this:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1917221&page=2#863401
nothing against the author, he just represent the common line of thoughts.
In fact i'm sure that i could give the same invite to a hundred players and i would get 99 identical answers.
But my question is: WHY?
What is the point of wasting all of one's gaming time enrolling and hunting once every 10? How fun can that be?
Many will say they are doing it to make a stronger character. Or to get the money they need for i don't know what future hypotetical event.
The thing is, what's the point in *just* doing that?
It sounds like passing all of one's life sitting on a chair waiting for somebody to open a door and tell you 'stand up and go live'. Well, why not just stand up NOW and live NOW, instead of waiting? Nobody needs that much gold.
I mean, it's a MMO game, made to play togheter.
There is no real interest in playing it alone, and I can understand that by passing all of your gaming life enrolling, at some point you can say 'here all is dead, boring we need something more'.
Well, to me, so far, the only dead ones seem to be players.. Why not get your gear on and start fighting in the field?
Stop enrolling and have fun as if you were playing?
There will be time, later, to earn gold, to enroll, to do anything else you will like. FSL is important, yes, but not as important as not playing anymore for it!
There are only 15 levels, 16 soon, maybe, and once you get there, you will find players that have been there for longer and will still be stronger.
Except that you will have spent 14 levels being bored, waiting to get there.. for what? That's what i don't understand.
It's easier (and cheaper) to get good fights and even better points earlier, if you make some calculation. Yet nobody is using the actual game features and everybody is asking for new ones.
WHY?? | Well for this server I can agree with you in some points. Why don't we just focus on playing rather than waiting for that some particular time in future when our character will be strongest (who knows by that time if lords will be here anymore). On ru server there are frequent events, tournaments so one need a lot gold to get involved in such battles
On com what reason I see for more gold is TGI and to develope other fSL.now it depends on player to what he gives more priority, to play and enjoy game now or to wait for few more years. | | I agree with some parts, but not everyone plays this game for the fun of combats. Me for instance play this game only to hook up with new friends. | | This is very very true , i used to do that , but now i want to battle so hard , my sword arm will break , not enough players though . | | There are lords of war... and there are lords of money! Funny that. ;) | Well, even fighting loses it's fun with nothing new happening.
After you have 100-200 fights in CG you'll get bored of it too (no need to mention the thousands of MG, HG and TG battles), doing the same thing over and over again. Events are necessary to provide innovation and make the game more interesting.
So many people keep enrolling, something that requires only 5 seconds per hour and hope for something better in the future to use that gold, some others quit, some keep playing casually and few play hardcore mode, according to their preferences. | | And by the way, some people have no time right now, especially school and college students. They enroll so that by the time they graduate and return to game, they have hordes of gold to use. But yes, events are nevertheless very much necessary. | But my question is: WHY?
The answer is simple (at least for me, 'cause I do the same when I'm busy) :
Stay online because you have something to do online, so in order to take advantage of you being online nevertheless, let's enroll by chance.
I doubt someone would log in just to enroll and nothing else, most guys who respect their life just combine enroll with other "business" they have online. | | sometimes people have time for enroll only,they have RL to do..for example,i stop at McDonald,theres a wifi..i online with phone just to enroll,its a waste if i dont take that.. | I'm actuallly doing this system, 10 enrolls 1 hunt, but, why?
I always wanted to have a TGI, do TG battles, ambush players and fight a lot in a PvP style, with no that long time waiting (I'm saving a multi to start ambushes as fast as I need =), and this is my goal, and till I reach it, I don't have the choice of going foward fast, otherwise, in the long run, I know I'll spend every piece of gold I've worked so hard for.
I also don't care too much with fsp ratios, in the end, this won't help me that much.
And, to keep playing this game, I really want and need to fight. For that, I have a multi, there I can play as much as I want. The only problem when I try to do CG is:
1. Lack of players. You need to be lucky to have CGs fights nowadays, in my level.
2. Same players again. As a wizard, I know they know who is in the other side, even when hide name option is there. What is the fun fighting against someone with over 50% magic shield, or the right build to defeat you with no much tactics?
3. Long waiting. Some times, I couldn't join CG 'cause of the factor of waiting more 15 minutes. This is the good part of GBs, whenever it is filled up, it will start in the next minute.
And events are importants. And I really think we need more of them. 1 day of event after 5 months with nothing new isn't really that good... | ~Entered enrolling (+CG) mode since 25th of June 2012~
During summer holiday there was pretty much competition at CG and I used to play CG. Now either there are not enough players, either I don't have time because I have school. I enroll because it doesn't take me much time, but I don't play this game only to enroll, I play this game for fights, strategy etc.; but only when I have free time.
So to be more specific:
Why waste your time for just enrolling?
-It's not for just enrolling, it's for CG (which is not cheap, especially for wizards) when I have more time to play them & events (as rare as they are). And also it's not a big waste, because it's fast and as somebody else said, I don't turn on my computer to enroll, it's something I do while I do other things :). | | it's something I do while I do other things :). | It's interesting for me: a boy decided to have a couple of battles and whines about no desire in players to do CG battles!!! How long will you desire last: 1, 2, 3 or even 5 battles - and then you do the same as 99,9% of the people here.
Imagine how easy it was to make CG2:)
Now I don't play CGs because doing anti-mode: 10 LG and one fight. Why? Boooooring game!!! I play because of habit not because it's a good game and because i'm staying near comp while playing on .ru. Why don't quit - Habit. But if this game stops to exist - no regrets. Sometimes I think it's better to demolish this game than playing like this.
Even the events (3 times in a year) are extremely booooring!
I would put the odmens 4 for this game on 100-point scale.
I regard those people who donate at least a penny for this game - let's say not very smart because i would not give even a penny for a spoiled goods.
[Player banned by moderator Laitha until 2012-11-04 14:54:57 // most of this is off-topic and insulting to admins and players//warning] | [Post deleted by moderator Laitha // off topic]
[Player banned by moderator Laitha until 2012-11-04 14:42:21 // off topic/warning] | We are here, mainly, to fight each other
what makes you think that?
a fair amount of players, including myself, does not care about PvP at all and will never be interested in it.
Besides, 10 enrolls 1 hunt hardly takes any time at all. If you leave a tab open it will automatically notify you can enroll, type the code, and 3 seconds later you can continue doing what you were doing before. | [Post deleted by moderator Laitha // ]
[Player banned by moderator Laitha until 2012-11-04 14:43:05 // off topic/warning] | a few from the crowd, that seem to resume all:
Well, even fighting loses it's fun with nothing new happening.
After you have 100-200 fights in CG you'll get bored of it too (no need to mention the thousands of MG, HG and TG battles), doing the same thing over and over again. Events are necessary to provide innovation and make the game more interesting.
So many people keep enrolling, something that requires only 5 seconds per hour and hope for something better in the future to use that gold, some others quit, some keep playing casually and few play hardcore mode, according to their preferences.
I can understand your point, but disagree.
When you play a table game, there isn't much of a difference between two rounds, except the way players will play it.
Yet, i have been playing chess for over 30 years, now, and still not bored.
Right, i don't do that daily, but it doesn't need earning either before one can move a piece.
My point is: sometimes people look for (new) power when they need strategy.
I think that, when playing pvp, what makes it fun is the fact that you can try an infinite amount of strategies, like in all board games. Then I understand that playing always the same opponent can get boring.
The answer is simple (at least for me, 'cause I do the same when I'm busy) :
Stay online because you have something to do online, so in order to take advantage of you being online nevertheless, let's enroll by chance.
I doubt someone would log in just to enroll and nothing else, most guys who respect their life just combine enroll with other "business" they have online.
And this is absolutely logical too.
But: even if everybody is enrolling as much as they can, whenever they can (understandable, given the game mechanics), nobody (almost) is playing anymore.
I mean, one gets bored? he quits and goes doing something else, happens.
He likes to play? he stays, and enjoy the game (fighting every now and then, at least, when he gets a chance to).
But staying, to stay bored?? (= doing only enrolls and no entertaining fights) Makes no sense to me..
Now, whenever we reach some 700 players online, in the battles log there are some 100 fights, 95% of which are hunts. This means that some 600 players are online doing.. nothing all the time? (in game)
As if they *never* have time to play? Just can't believe it.
oh and:
what makes you think that?
a fair amount of players, including myself, does not care about PvP at all and will never be interested in it.
The first half of the game's name being "lords of war", battles are supposed to happen.. ;p
More seriously, i'm the first one to say that money are important.
But when it takes over 80% gaming time, and leaves less than 20% to war, there I think that there is a problem.
And I did try the 10/1 system, after two weeks i was so bored i had to stop (yes, even doing something else in between :) ).
Since the time I restarted playing normally, I can tell you that i see things in a brighter way.
Not talking just about CG, by the way, although that is what made me start this thread. I have been pondering this problem since i was lvl 3.. | Hiya,
The first thing i want to do is apologizing for my lack in speaking English.
I'm from Belguim and my English isn't that great, but nonetheless I hope you'll understand me :p
Well in my opinion there are 2 types of players.
You have the players like you(i guess) who keeps playing battles(hunt, mg, thief, cg, pvp..) and nevertheless they keep enrolling.
As soon as they level they need to invest 90% of the gold they received in buying stuff in the castle. They play continuously battles in min ap, cause they can't afford any high or mid arts. It's like they are desperately trying to keep continuing the battles and trying to not get broken.
While on the other hand you have the more patience players, who keep enrolling and after the 10th time perhaps a hunt or merch battle. They are saving their money, to benefit from everything the game can offer them. Doing hunts in bb,gh,mh arts, Thieving with high level arts, doing CG in high level arts etc..
The first categories enjoys the game the whole time, but they can't benefit everything the game offers them. They just don't have the money for that. While the second categories isn't rushing in the game. They take their time while playing this game and afterwards when they've collected enough money they enjoy the game and the features 100%.
It's just what fit's you.. Rushing in the game, but can't experience everything cause of money problems or waiting until you can utilize everything the game's got to offer you.
Cheers,
Ku | WHY? do you care?
the amount of players doing CG wouldn't increase with such useless topics!
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i really don't know what is the future of CG here
1)there are hardly any players online for CG
2)once there is an event,players will be online but all will be busy playing the event
so what up??
[Player banned by moderator SV22 until 2012-11-04 21:27:02 // Additional characters are not allowed to post in main forums] | ^^pufft... i hate it when tht happens !!
sorry about that! |
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