| Author | selling facilities |
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| is it legal to lose them for gold or arts? |
| so is it legal? |
| Can you explain your question a bit more? Do you mean buy arts and selling in the market with gold loss? If it is that, yes, you can do it. |
| He's asking whether an MC could deliberately lose facility defenses to another MC , in exchange of artifacts or gifts . |
| He's asking whether an MC could deliberately lose facility defenses to another MC , in exchange of artifacts or gifts then there is no special rule to prevent it, then only the current gift limit rule should be applied if reported. |
| I'd like to second that myself... but somehow it also has a similarity to the rule that prohibits paying for intentional loss in a combat... except this is a Defense and we have the right to not defend... but on legal terms , is the reward possible with the original/actual description? |
He's asking whether an MC could deliberately lose facility defenses to another MC , in exchange of artifacts or gifts .
correct.
rule that prohibits paying for intentional loss in a combat
thats what i want to know. how can A&D lose wolf Dale and some other one deliberately for an enchanted sword of might?? |
| how can A&D lose wolf Dale and some other one deliberately for an enchanted sword of might?? !!! as per me it is not a free and it is not less than 50% of market price, and there is no description about any adjustment :P except this is a Defense and we have the right to not defend...there are many clans owned more facilitys and give up some coz they find it is difficult to defend every day. |
We were having many troubles getting enough people to defend every facility, so we lost some.
Is there a transaction saying (Transferred sword of might to: Sir Jedi Knight for: facility?
I doubt it. |
So the conclusion -
We can obviously not defend our facilities and Then talking about gift - well its a payment gift but since its not "tagged as payment" its considered just plain gift within the limits of game rules. So that makes it legal.
Correct me. |
| Considering we didn't lose it for the gift, there has been nothing done wrong. |
| Well I agree. BUT i dont understand how non MC players suggest that we did. Quite Wicked! :) |
| Yes I would like to know how a player who just registered to play the game a little over a month ago, would know anything about the workings or dealings within our clan or any other clan for that matter---unless they are an Alt Char. who has not declared so in their profile. Which would be wrong. |
This thread is going off topic, so a friendly reminder to stay on topic.
The question is if it is legal to lose a mine for gold or artefacts.
I personally don't know, it seems to be a grey area, but I hope someone with more insight can enlighten us. Maybe someone who is also active in the Russian forum will know since it could have been discussed there. Or one of the people in charge for the deal (if there was a deal) mentioned earlier, since they may have investigated before completed the transaction. |
Hiya all,
Just to clarify a few things;
- It is not against the rules to buy used arts from market or another player for 1-30% of the market value. Almost everyone have bought used arts before.
- It is not against the rules for a clan to decide that defending too many facilities all over the map for months non-stop is exhausting and not what that clan wants to do, and it's better to concentrate on one location, and a clan decides to let go of a/some facilities they have won.
Almost every clan who have participated in this event have deliberately lost facilities - whether it's getting too hard to defend many facilities, change of plans, or simply coz they don't have enough members online to defend 2-3 attacks at once.
- Unlike other artifacts/goods in the game, there can't be any 'selling' of a facility simply coz facilities can't be directly sold/transferred to another clan/player. When a facility is lost, every clan can fight for it.
For anyone to lump these separate incidents together is just trying to.. [fill in the blanks]
The rules are there for all to read. Maybe we should all read them.
Thanks. |
Soz for the typo -
- It is not against the rules to buy used arts from market or another player for 70-99% of the art's market value. Almost everyone have bought used arts before. |
For Lord Khellendros, I am terrible sorry for going "off Topic"
I guess what I am really trying to discern, is the validity of this Thread to exist in the first place. :) |
I guess what I am really trying to discern, is the validity of this Thread to exist in the first place. :)
He asked a question about the rules, I am not sure about the answer, but I am actually interested in it. So for me this thread has validity.
About the discussion regarding AnD and there mine is not really the point and don't help the question stated in #1. I know the example was started in #7 but it has snowballed from there. I don't know the situation and have not really tried to look at it. But I would like to know the rules better and the legality of paying other for losing mines is relevant with the ongoing event imo. |
| Better not. I mean, once a clan has given up defense of a location, any clan can fight for it. What if once control has been lost, another clan takes over the facility and not the one you made the deal with? At best, it would be a dicey transaction for the clan "buying" that facility... |
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| closed by Dkhinght (2013-07-22 14:38:58) |
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