| Author | Vanguard of dwarves n tribals {0} (need help to win) |
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Any tips to win this combat?
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=697556393<=-1 |
| Use the tactics talent and place your lizard in front of tribal cyclop and your shrew in front of botton berserker... kill that berserker on her first move and hit the patriarch after it. Use the hydra and minotaur to protect the hobgoblin from the warlord. |
Use offense + tactics
Max shrews, Max Liz and Hydras and remaining minos.
Take +1 luck either by talent of art.
Split Shrews into 2 stacks and place one at 3:10 and another at 3:9. Kill 7 berz with shrew at 3:9 and attack patriarchs with shrews at 3:10.
Use Hydras and minos to protect Hobs and defend/wait depending upon the situation.
Use liz charge to kill Unfettered Cyclops.
This is indeed tough and requires offensive tactics. I advise to wear some attack ap to win this. :) |
kill that berserker on her first move and hit the patriarch after it.
Not possible. You need two stacks of shrews to eliminate Patriarchs because their initiative is good and they would do firewall on their first turn. Check the initiative counter. :) |
| They won't kill the hob at first turn... it is ok she let them cast the firewall, if she can hit them after it the wall will take about 5 moves of the hob to kill them. |
They won't kill the hob at first turn... it is ok she let them cast the firewall, if she can hit them after it the wall will take about 5 moves of the hob to kill them.
And what about Sky Shaman's Chain Lightning and Trappers successful trap? :)
Firewall + Chain Lightning + Traps, high risk involved :)
Try to eliminate 7 Berz, 3 Patriarchs and 1 Cyclops in the first turn. 4 warlords will die in retail of Liz.
Remaining main problem would be Frontier Ursary + Enforcers.
Is doable in minimum AP, I think. :) |
dont bring hydra. their turns come too slow.
bring poisoner and poison the firewall caster
liz should charge tribal tier 7 upgrade
rest should be easy |
If you had split shrews into 3-4 different stacks it would be an easy win. As mentioned place 2 stacks of shrews at the bottom (using tactics talent), one to kill berserker and the other to kill patriarchs or at to least reduce its firewall power, other stacks of shrews should be used to kill small stacks such as top berserker and warlords.
Lizards on that large shooting creature and the rest you can easily clean up with shrew as your opponent would need to come forward which you can kill with minos, etc or stay where they are and die.. Sky shaman are no an issue as it's chain lightning won't kill hobs that fast and your shrews should have killed it in the 2nd turn.
Apart from firewall and that large shooting creature (which has been countered as mentioned above), others would be an easy win.. Basically for Vanguard pretty much always use tactics and split your shrew as much as possible. |
| And what about Sky Shaman's Chain LightningAnd what about Sky Shaman's Chain Lightning : Sky Shamans don't have enough mana to cast chain lightning. |
| Question: Can sky shamans sacrifice goblins in this and get mana? Or that is exclusively available if Tribal Spirit is there? :) |
for MarineBiologist:
it can but sky shamans prefer to cast delay |
for Fallen Atheros:
Thanks, sky shaman should not be a much problem then. :) |
