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I have been playing since quite a while now
I know all the cards and the resources that are needed to play them
I know how to manage the resources & what cards to play when
I also have a certain set of strategies while playing
but I still feel that the card games require mostly luck to win them especially the ones in GC
Am i missing something?
is there a pattern to what cards we will get?
else it is just luck! |
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is there a pattern to what cards we will get?
no pattern, but it helps to keep track of cards played / not played yet (in the single deck version)
else it is just luck!
not just luck, but luck is a big factor in the game. |
Players like:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4526436
are proof it's not just luck based. Sure some games are rigged and you will say keep getting blue cards when you have no mana and then there's not much to do, but on the long run you can make a difference with skill. |
no pattern
so the guys who have millions of profits are just lucky?
obviously they have basic understanding of the game
but in the end its just luck that separates the winner? |
for Slust:
All i want to know is if there is something more to the game that i don't know yet
Sure some games are rigged
Yep there are so many games that i have lost without even getting a fair chance
& I won some too like that (this makes it mostly luck)
according to me, it is about 90% luck & 10% skill |
I know how to manage the resources & what cards to play when
I also have a certain set of strategies while playing
That's vague though that's mostly all there is to know to me, although I still learn new tricks every now and then. It's also important to know when to not play some cards and you can add some extra bit of risk assessment.
But I'm merely an average player, if there's a super secret the masters gamblers didn't share it with me. |
Poker is statistically a game of luck - and yet there are those that are better than others as they are better able to judge their outs and the chances of them occuring.
Statistically there is a 50% chance of winning for either side if cards are played blindly.
However, there are judgements to be paid as to what plays to make, based upon what cards are still to come and which ones played. From the interpretation of your opponents moves and what that tends to suggest. Bluffs on your part to make them think you have the switch wall card when you don't. Knowing when to commit to rushing to get a tall tower and when to lose a monastry to ensure they cannot.
When to take a hit by destroying your mine and their mine, or both of your monastries as it will hurt them more than you. Knowing when to not play a card as you will get resources first if you play for a draw. When to stall and play slow to get a stalemate win.
Judgement of all of these things and more are not equal between players and some are better at it than others, as a result they win more.
Also some people pay for an extra card, I guess that must help as well. |
Also some people pay for an extra card, I guess that must help as well. - its a must if You want to play for high stakes
while 1000g for 20 extra card is not that much
Much depends on the starting cards, You can chose strategy for the actual game
You should keep Your wall higher than enemy wall ALWAYS if possible
(too many cards are based on "if Your wall / tower is higher then enemy wall")
Timing of -ore -stack -mana cards is also important, even if enemy has very good cards (or saving for to play a "high" card) You can prevent it |
I'm an occasional tavern player. One of the things I learned after many, many games, is that holding some cards is more important than playing them. You got dragon? Maybe hold so you know your opponent doesn't have it. Your enemy needs stack? Hold the 3 stacks cards, so he can't develop that resource.
Sometimes you need to anticipate what your opponent has in hand as well. You can pretty much know when they have shift card, or the cards which makes mine/monastery same level. Sometimes they hold 2-3 strong attack cards for a combo, or 2-3 tower cards for when they are close to tower level needed.
Also, while resources are limited, try to foresee what your opponent is saving for. If he is trying to save 25 stacks, maybe he has a dragon in his hand. If he is trying to save 6 ore and has a wall higher than yours, maybe he will try to damage your barracks. And so on. The interesting of the card games is the many possibilities you have.
Also some people pay for an extra card, I guess that must help as well.
If you are playing for bets, it is needed. Imo, any bet higher than 200g should be played with golden card, else you lose a good chance. It may appear as "only 1 extra card", but it is much more than that. It is one extra chance to get an important resource card in the beginning. It is also one extra card you can hold in the game, which is very important. |
Check this thread, best thread about Tavern Card games ever, Imo.
Explains much:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2384088
it's not just luck based.
so the guys who have millions of profits are just lucky?
I'd like to say otherwise, but sadly its true.
Another example: In World/European Texas Hold 'Em Poker Tourneys, you normally see more or less the same people every now and then, winning often.
Statistically there is a 50% chance of winning for either side if cards are played blindly.
I think this is true.
Then "Skill Involved" makes you win 55-60% of the games, or so, instead of the normal 50%. |
if there's a super secret the masters gamblers didn't share it with me.
I was really hoping for this
Poker is statistically a game of luck
Not really relatable
I cannot really make an opponent submit to my bluff (the skill par in poker)
rest is luck
Sometimes you need to anticipate what your opponent has in hand as well. You can pretty much know when they have shift card, or the cards which makes mine/monastery same level. Sometimes they hold 2-3 strong attack cards for a combo, or 2-3 tower cards for when they are close to tower level needed.
This, I have learnt over time & is an interesting strategy
but only applicable to long games
I have seen players who play the 50 tower game only & have millions of winnings
so what is the secret? |
secret
The harder you practice, the luckier you get. |
Poker is statistically a game of luck
Not really relatable
I cannot really make an opponent submit to my bluff (the skill par in poker)
rest is luck
It's not a bad comparison, there's more to poker than luck and bluff. And why couldn't you bluff in the tower game? For example, you might play a small wall card and try to fake not having the wall exchange card. |
