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We have a Russian and English version of the game, would it be possible for the creators to make a German, Spanish, Hindi, etc.. Version of the game?
Many people speak those 3 languages and I think it would be a good profit too because more people means more donors and there would be more people to play CG with and for Military clans etc. | it would be a good profit too because more people means more donors and there would be more people to play CG with and for Military clans etc.
How would this be done?
We play the same game supported in 2 languages not a different version, how would it make players play more cg or donate more?
It will still be the same players that will meet in CG or whatever but the cost to dev's will be more for servers and translations.
And how many speak those languages, I don't speak any of them, does it really worth the time and money as you say?
If so I want also a Greek server for the "-+30" Greeks that play the game. | | There would be no profit for the admins in providing more languages than those available. It would have to be something players do i think, so a spanish speaking clan could post a mail of the spanish version of an announcement is the best that i could see for such a small player base | How would this be done?
There are people who can translate to those languages and would probably do it if asked, as I could help with German.
We play the same game supported in 2 languages not a different version, how would it make players play more cg or donate more?
1st with version I meant language, sorry but my English is not perfect. No you are wrong there, it would attract new players who speak one of those languages.
And how many speak those languages, I don't speak any of them
With 329 million native speakers, Spanish ranks as the world's No. 2 language in terms of how many people speak it as their first language + those who learned it as their second language.
German has around 95 - 100 million native speakers + those who learned it as their second language.
And German is the most widely spoken native language in the European Union.
I don't have to mention hindi.
does it really worth the time and money as you say?
It actually depends on the person's mindset and if they see the potential in it. I see over 500 million people who speak one of those languages and if 0.01% would try to play this game it would make an impact. | There would be no profit for the admins in providing more languages than those available.
Wrong. You need to know that there are many people who would play the game in their mother / second language, English isn't the second language in every country and even if it is many people only speak their mother language. I know that as an fact because my second language is English.
It would have to be something players do i think, so a spanish speaking clan could post a mail of the spanish version of an announcement is the best that i could see for such a small player base
But how will they get so far into the game and find a clan which speaks their language without the right guidance? It isn't that easy to play if you can't understand a single word. | Game is running 12.5 years now, English native speaking people are also a big amount around the world, how many actual native English speaking people did it attract all this years not to mention that it is The international language and how many do you think they speak any of those languages you suggest from current players (22:57, 3775 online) since this is what I asked and not how many they speak it globally.
Don't get me wrong but I think lack of advertisement has more to do than language options. | I don't have to mention hindi.
You should have a chat with Vicky about if he'd prefer the game in Hindi or English :P
No you are wrong there, it would attract new players who speak one of those languages.
The biggest reason why we are not getting more new players are because of:
A) Lack of advertising
B) This game does not fit in with the current play style of games currently out there
Nothing to do with language barriers.
Translating this game to Spanish for example, won't do much to generate traffic as they still won't know about this game. | Wrong. You need to know that there are many people who would play the game in their mother / second language,
Of course i know this, i wouldnt play the game if it wasnt in english. But the people who speak spanish would also need to know the game existed.. do you know the cost of translators, servers and advertising? | | If even one extra language is added , people speaking the other languages would start to demand for it too. It’s a waste of money for devs to even think of adding even one language. Russian is there because game has loads of Russian players. Most European countries also speak a bit of English hence English being an international language was chosen or else there would be Chinese, hindi, French and German too despite being major languages in the world. | I will try to provide an answer for all of you.
We notice that there are NOT many British or American players here, there are many players who speak English as their second language. And you probaly don't know Germans, but they almost only play games in their mother language because every popular game has German as one of the languages. I know that because my German friend gave me this idea & Germans spend ALOT of money on browser games (So this is one of the ways to make profit).
Advertisement as said is the smallest of problems. We are living in the time of Social media. If the creator would make a team of people as we have the Forum Mods clan for an example (With people who would Translate that, make / edit a trailer video).
The cost for a new server aren't that high by a browser game that is in 2D. I had a shooter game server and I payed 20 $ per month ( It ran from 60 FPS on, It was not playable with less).
So Calamity & merlin36 & Meshy I hope you got your answer.
for Meshy:
Well it is a simple game with Clan wars, PvE and PvP and so many things to do. So with the right introduction video it would surely become a popular game. Even shooter game fans as myself would play it.
The game should not be a super hit. It should attract new player players.
do you know the cost of translators, servers and advertising?
Translators - Players from those countrys can translate it as I mentioned before.
Servers - Well first of all I think this isn't a server but a Domain. Which doesn't cost that much for a game that doesn't require that much KB to load the site.
Advertisement - Well I have explained it already. AND the most important of them all, the mouth to mouth advertisement (100% Free).
You should have a chat with Vicky about if he'd prefer the game in Hindi or English :P
Yes but not every Indian can speak English. Please don't understand me wrong, I tried to suggest that so more people who can't speak English, would still enjoy it. | Well first of all I think this isn't a server but a Domain.
I meant Home Page. | To Bayern's defense
I would just like to mention my personal experience -
I used to play a game earlier called travian, there used to be separate servers in their native language for - germans, arabs, turks, english server (australia, us, uk), etc
And the amount of players were drastically more in arab, german, turkish servers bcoz they got their own language and when i say there was a huge difference, below are the numbers -
English speaking servers had like 5-6k people, while the arabs were at 15-20k
There is clearly a new domain which can be explored by introducing & advertising the game in arabic, turkish or german, that is for the admins to decide
But there surely is a big and diverse gaming pool which is not being exploited yet. | | Travian had a lot of advertising to back up the different languages, there is a struggle to get translations into english, even if someone sent the admins a translation for every piece of text in the game i doubt they would use it | All we can do is provide idea's, admin's have to figure out how to implement the ideas.
Advertising is in their hands and translation work too
By defending their side by giving statements like - translation is a problem, does not help. | for siddi1111:
That is not a problem, if the person complaining would be ready to translate the files from English to "That language" as I would be ( To German).
As said, Germans spend way more money on a browser game than you can imagine. So if I help with the translations and some other people who speak German how will it cost them than? And have you seen how much does it cost to open a home page on google?
With that being said the "Money, too expensive.. etc." excuses are senseless.
Travian had a lot of advertising to back up the different languages, there is a struggle to get translations into english, even if someone sent the admins a translation for every piece of text in the game i doubt they would use it
I didn't find Travian by an ad back in the day, I started playing it because my friends played it. So it wasn't / isn't all about advertisement. You can advertise that on social media sites too. | | Sure, i started playing by a friend too, but it leads back to an advert eventually. Thats why my first point was about creating a clan, get a clan together of active german speakers, name it after some legendary german hero or something. Create an advert for your social media, create a translation of the beginners guide, help the new players reach level 5 through your clans forum page and through your invitation programmes, invite them to your clan and then it will become almost like a petition to show the admins that there is a german community out there that makes it worthwhile. Germans spend way more money on a browser game than you can imagine. probably isnt enough to convince them, and so by putting in the hard work you are offering first then you can prove it makes sense for them to do this, whilst benefit to you is plenty of german players that you can teach and talk to, when also earning on your invitation programme :) | for merlin36:
I answered the "German clan" topic already and I won't repeat it. But if I understood you right, what you are saying is "I should invite people, make advertisements, translate and make a guid for new players"? So basiclly I should educate everyone on how to play the game and teach him the rules? Because I would have to do that if I make a guid and invite all of them to my clan. So no thank you but it's not worth to use the invitation programme. By the way I am not talking about 10 - 50 people. I am talking about Germany, Austria and Swiss as the German speaking country and people from other country who speak German.
the amount of players were drastically more in arab, german, turkish servers bcoz they got their own language
Fury was right, Germans and Arabs really love strategy games and this game is way more fun than many other browser games. So with a well planed social media site and trailer it would get a nice number of players. | This game has lot of potential, but it is still an "undergroud" game. Barely few people know about it, you cant compare it to travian who had many servers. If you want this game to evolve, ofc this idea needs (actualy HAS) to be implemented. But until this game reaches min. 25k players at once for every moment of the day, its gonna be useless to make more languages for this browser game. It's useless fighting over the forum about this, i think noone can do anything untill admins start to invest in advertisments and stop putting the money from donations into their pockets.
In conclusion, if someone wants to translate the game for free, i think someone needs to help that person (or that group) and that will surely take this game to a higher step.
And the english version is still not fully finished, please someone who has that power, finish it. | Guys when someone gives you a different point of view is not attacking or fighting, no need to defend we just talk here.
Being realistic on how this game running so far doesn't mean that I/we wouldn't want the game in our own languages -I said that on my 1st post- nore that we defend developers.
I will agree with Merlin tho, if you can find 10 German speaking people who play the game and will never take a break from the game and devote their time and everyday on translations and whatever for free, you'll have one more motive to offer for dev's to think your idea.
But 1st they have to finally finish with English translations who are not still done after so many years and with so many people who speaks English. | | You said players wouldnt be able to get to lvl5 without understanding a word and thats why none are in the game, so if you translated the newbie guide that tells you to equip the hunters broadsword then maybe that would be enough to get by, especially i thought you might do this as you offered to help translating the whole game. But if you wont do this, or another player wont do this, then you are relying on the admins to translate a game into a language that only a handful active players speak, where is the sense in that? |
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