| Author | balanced p2w game? |
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| https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=1584744752 |
| Yes, your RNG is directly proportional to your donation, that's why slayerofall get's luck and morale with almost all units turn 1. |
When I lose, my opponents are cheating
When I win, it's all skill |
you think thats bad? Wait till 18+ when hellfire demon becomes a thing :)
that will give you something to complain about. |
| I used to win with UN against those enemies with firewall and fire elementals, but admins nerfed it. some ppl could say admins erased caster UN from game |
| Would barely even class it as unbalanced. Plenty of classes who could have beat that setup. |
| You might as well have no armor at that point. That build cannot win against a defensive setup. Even with all that luck you lost, and I'm not surprised. |
for King_Luigi:
what was the nerf
bro it aint about the defensive ssetup he had like 20 stats more than me at same cl this game is p2w |
bro it aint about the defensive ssetup he had like 20 stats more than me at same cl this game is p2w
I don’t quite understand where your reasoning about the pay-to-win aspect is coming from. 20 extra stats? Let’s take a look:
The Russian player has 2 more MGs than you, 1 more Thief, and 1 more Adventure Guild. That gives him 3 extra primary skills and 1 initiative. You have 1 more CG, so overall you're only missing 2 primary points and 1 Thief point.
Where exactly are the other 17 stats he's supposedly ahead in? Am I missing something? On top of that, this player barely has any extra pump penalty, so he’s just slightly above average for players at your level. Btw, you are new on CL17, he's almost CL18. Thus you have 23 mil xp less then him. Time enough to catch up buddy....
This isn’t P2W, it’s simply a hard counter. As UN, you can’t really win against a defensive Barb. Even if he had mirrored you, you likely still would’ve lost. Just like as an ELF, you wouldn’t call it P2W if you lost to a defensive Tribal, right? That logic doesn’t really hold up. |
| You can only pay for one stat from the UCI anyways, and that's not going to be the difference between a win and a loss most of the time |
for Arcanide:
so its my fault for fighting player with 23m xp more?
u got to be kidding, the game is getting more p2w as time goes by
arts aside, if we talk about purely character stats
U can get up to 6 stats more from arnaments +6
U can get up to 3 stats more from MC +3
U can get 1 stat more from UCI +1
there is 10 stat there just for a f2p player vs a p2w player
extra 10 stat can be get from additional FSL (chest pumping/buying extra fsl artifacts backpack), high guild points
It is easy for a f2p player to get totally rekt and many instances players are going against p2w players on a 10-20 stat disadvantage most times |
| Anyone can get armas and MC stats tho |
Armas cost 500 gold, if you find that too expensive, maybe PvP just isn’t for you. As for the remaining points, you can join a clan to cover those, so that argument doesn’t hold (either).
Also, these aren’t even “real stats”, if they were, you'd be able to track them through daily. Anyone can get these with just 10k gold (cost arma and MC fee).
Even with a record number of anti against this defensive Barbarian, you still wouldn’t have stood a chance. So again, your complaint isn’t justified as this was a counter against the built you use.
The actual difference remains just 2 primary points and 1 thieving point.
As for why he has 23 million more XP than you, well, maybe don’t play then? On CL 21, the top 5 players have over 140 million XP more than I do. That’s just part of leveling up.
If you’re going to complain, back it up with facts. Otherwise, I’ll just consider this trolling and close/delete such topics. |
Armas cost 500 gold,
My gmb +2 defense armament cost 2.5k) |
My gmb +2 defense armament cost 2.5k)
Most I see at mine is 666.. Depends on drops? Don't know |
| The cost builds each time, but is reset if you earn the drop again |
| the game rewards playing the game.. 3* in each wg rewards 1 armament. 3 on day of wg. events reward armaments, i think leg events/tournament offers armaments, if i remember correctly adventure guild rewards armaments. easy enough to get without paying, just have to play. the cost is reset when an armament you already have drops again. nothing really is p2w in this game that you cant achieve by grinding it out f2p. |
There is a certain element of p2w in that one player can make 500-100 MG points in one day which would normally take about a whole year for a f2p player. But the more stat advantage or disadvantage you have relative to the other players, this game at least tries to balance that by leveling the fat ones quicker and letting the low stat ones use guild potions to build it up quicker. I do think the threshold should be reevaluated though but that's a separate tangent.
And the advantage from donation arts is very real as well but you can tell admins have tried to keep it very restrained that you don't see in many online games. Most importantly, all f2p players can have access to donation arts through their Miliary clans. That is a very nice thing you won't see in true p2w games.
The UCI thing is one stat I concede on.
But overall IMO, the crux of what I'm saying is that f2p players have been given opportunity to catch up to donors, it just takes a very long grind to get the gold required to do so. And you will inevitably need to spend 4x or 5x more time than the donors to achieve the same milestones. How bad is it will be subjective, but in true p2w games, it is near impossible for f2p players to catch up. |
crazy how 7 troops with 3 arnaments
players are forced to spend 1500 x 7 = 10500 gold every month per faction
so if wanting to play all faction u are paying 100k gold each month
also most arnamnets are not 50g but many more im paying 1k+ per arnament
game forcers u to play boring guilds in order to enjoy pvp which is ridiculous
its time to make CG equal stats and fsl for every hour
thats the true name of "TACTICS" GUILD. |
none wants to play and enjoy playign against player with 10-20 stats more than them in pvp
what is point of pvp just go in and auto and win any battle with zero skill?
u enjoy that and continue to allow that so p2w players can get their d hard by flexing huge guild stat advantages
it is not uncommon to see 20 stat disadvantage from average player to someone top of their level
game forces u to keep putting in cash and offer dumb items that give extra fsp so its not p2w? can f2p player afford to play guilds other than investing time? not all have money to be able to afford fsl backpack item, play adventurer guild to level 3,a nd mind u this is extremely expensive guild
costing about 1m+ to get AG3 |
