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Author[News from the Court] - Discussion thread
for thenu:
You need to wear arts for every combat.
The only exeption is being ambushed.
ic thx for the info
thats why many negative post on this topic because this rule
need a solution for this,if not we will see number of player decrease
15:55, 1153 online

on .ru there's been plenty of weeping, but people didn't leave ;)
The solution is simple - enroll, and you'll have gold for artifacts.
You can enroll as much you can do, but if you want artifacts and second tier upgrade, you must chose... and you have to chose artifacts, if you want to play. So, there is only one solution, if you want both of them: donate. Donation are always welcome, right? :)
Shebali - very funny. Thats like to say your eymployee:"dont worry we decrease your wages, you can work harder, longer and you will have some wages.

Im wondering, that somebody could say such things...
Luckas - of course thats all is because of admins pocket, they want more donations
You can get 2nd tier for gold, too. Also, many people donate only to buy the above mentioned second tier upgrade early, and buy arts with in-game earned gold. What's wrong with that path?

Unless you're saying that upgrades are costly in resourses and gold. But hey, all new buildings are costly. And the higher level, the costlier buildings :P
for Shebali (187):
...and now I am asking you if you know the meaning of "free game"?

Yes, I am one who got cheated by this game to upgrade my second tier troops earlier. I donated because I liked it. But now I start to regret that decision. Accepting donations is OK, begging for donations is sick.
What's wrong? lol...

I know that you can get units improvements (like crossbowmen, or imperial griffins, only to quote some of the knight's faction) buying them with golds... i do that for recruits (and i never donate until now). But I must worked hard to have them, and I was without artifacts for every battle. If i had to wear artifacts (that cannot last so long), when i could reach that? In a second life, maybe... -_-

This change (the only wrong, I think) OBLY you to donate, if you want to have second tier upgrade in time... but this is a FREE GAME, donation are ONLY welcome. Am I so wrong?

I specify that these are only my opinions, I'm not accusing administrator to have "earning ideas" about this game. But i want, as a player, to understand the meaning of this change.
well, we play on .ru server with AP long time, and it is not so bad. The artifacts on Productions no longer.. (umm, forget a world(() stay. And this is more market possibilites))))

The REAL trouble - is the points 5 and 6.
Who's begging? It's been proven once and again that you can play this game without donating a cent. I've got plenty of friends who do not donate, for reasons many and various.

People were complaining that facilities were out of gold - well, here's a way not only to fill them with gold, but to work at them. Regulary. That means base pay of 200 and not 175. With LG>0 and more than 1 enrollment per day, the diference is quite easy to see.

well, we play on .ru server with AP long time, and it is not so bad

You guys make it sound like a disaster. Like admins come into your home and take away your lunch money or something. Sure, admins like donations. They happen to like to eat, too. Imagine that.

I'm not happy with all changes - extra xp bothers me very much. But AP is a must if you want to have any kind of economy in game.
For Shebali:
I agree that something needs to be done with the economy. But given the number of arts one can get from hunts, the hunting arts will be as rare as the thieve ones if you force people to use arts in hunts. And yes, no problem for admins to earn some real money from their work. That's why I donated. But with the new rules, for a person who works (in the real life) at least 8 hours a day and he/she cannot afford to log in to earn in-game money, that person will need at least few days to be able to hunt once and that won't be sure they will win because they may be combined in a hunt with an afker or with someone who just try the new monsters. So, where is the fun for such a person? The only fun will be if he/she pays with real money. There are many players here in this situation. And, mainly, they support you with real money. The kids with enough time to play, they don't have real money to pay you. So, think also about this aspect.
I'm not begging. I'm not complaining that facilities were out of gold (I know the meaning of the word "move"). Your answer about economy it's enough, for me. This cannot change my idea, that it is a bad idea, but my opinion is not important. I will continue to play.
If AP is a must, how many gold you can save for other things?
for costly constructions, for costly tire 2, 3 upgrades, for smith -- 4000 gold for just 1 smith point.
I can only enroll once per hour for 500-600 gold as my LG lvl 5, since i have already spend 1500+ hours.
And how many hours do you have per day and how many days in your life?
It's a REAL DISASTER
To stimulate the game economy, the right way is to encourage the players not forece them
Im not here to support facilities for other players I need gold for my miniarts. Other factions are using arts mainly in every battle, because they dont need gold as much and they are lazy to count if they really need use arts in every combat. I dont want support these people! Losses caused by using arts cannot be compesated by increasing 175 -> 200 gold few times a day! This "economy system" is absolutely terrible...
If AP is a must, how many gold you can save for other things?
for costly constructions, for costly tire 2, 3 upgrades, for smith -- 4000 gold for just 1 smith point.

THIS is what I mean, Shebali. And I'm not a smither.
The addition of monsters and new creatures are good

But the game still becomes less attractive, less interesting and less fun.

Because in order to encourage/force players to wear arts, the monsters becomes thougher and thougher. I beleive most of the players are just play for fun. They just want to get relaxed after a whole day of work, not want to be abused by the monsters.

And the NPC also becomes rediculous.
examples:
The caravan of necro has +1 luck and I have +3 luck, but the actual luck befall is 9:4
The caravan of elf has +2 luck and I have +1, the luck befall is 8:1
What a rediculous!
Is this a kind of cheating by the system?
i like the changes...ppl will lvl up more quickly than before and the AP rule is great becouse the economy will profit... yesterday i played a 3 vs 3 and i get 3.56 skill points with my lvl 6 demon...this is just great for ppl wanna raise combat lvl and fslvl fast...afk gamers also get a bigger problem becouse they are forced to play with art&#180;s...just my point of view at that time
On logging in to enroll: most of working people have internet access. From work, mobile phone, PDA, whatever. And you don't need to be on-line 24/7 to afford a sword that costs 100 gold/battle (Equilibrium blade, if you were wondering)

For level-up constructions you have level-up bonus (gold+resourses) they cover up a portion of expenses - save up for the rest. It's possible.

Smith/Enchanter guild - aren't ment to be cheap. Never were ment to be cheap, too. Being a smith isn't something every second char can do, and imo it's only right.

Kids play this game, sure. But kids aren't the majority here - and they can play without donating.

Enrolling isn't good for you? Then play acromage. Bad at cards? Play roulette. Hatred took your luck away? Sell elements. I did just that when I needed a lot of gold, quickly. Rent TGI. rent artifacts. There are many ways to get gold without donating. Complaining on a game rule that won't be changed isn't one of them though.
Well, as you said. Change will not be done, so it's without point to continue this discussion. :)

See you in the game.
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