| Author | [News from the Court] - Discussion thread |
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hey, guys check this out.
combat level 5 & above, you need the min. AP to go for a fight. & at least 1 weapon in right hand.
did you notice that, you actually just need a 'weapon' then you can go for a fight.
Combat level 5 – 5 AP >>> Sword of retribution
Combat level 6 – 6 AP >>> Equilibrium blade or Combat staff
Combat level 7-8 – 8 AP >>> Sword of might or Staff of power
Combat level 9 and above – 9 AP >>> (?) maybe later will have new weapon?
for those fans of a "no art" in group battle:
instead of "no art",
we can changes the battle description to something like:
"art only on right hand."
"not more than ??AP."
etc. |
Shibali is little easy in thinking. Admins said her, that roulette and cards are here for making money, but they forgot to say her, that its making money for Empire :o)
Its like in the silliest advertisement on betting shop. They only show you one man who win, not hundreds of losers :o) |
for spartan300:
Combat level 9 and above – 9 AP >>> (?) maybe later will have new weapon?
You don't need to have just 1 weapon with 9AP, you know. You can use multiple arts as long as they add up to the required amount (one has to be equppied to the right hand, that's all).
for barnabas_666:
for GGW:
You guys should read before commenting...Shebali said roulette is one of the options (and most likely not the best one). She never claimed everyone can become rich that way, but just giving all the possible ways of making money. Giving two top roul players as example is just that an example to show how some can be lucky. It doesn't mean that she has ignored the rest who are unlucky at it. |
for Zyanya:
You don't need to have just 1 weapon with 9AP, you know. You can use multiple arts as long as they add up to the required amount (one has to be equppied to the right hand, that's all).
i know :-)
for other combat level also the same thing.
we just need, anything in right hand, eg "Wooden sword" plus some other art, to meet the minimum requirement, to join in a fight.
i just try to give some suggestion for those who run out of art.
just an idea for them,
btw, i do believe soon or later there will be more new art in the shop. |
| Do you think wooden sword is cheaper than a steel blade? |
for GGW:
It isn't cheaper, of course, when you calculate gold spent per combat. But spartan300 was just giving an example, not saying it was the cheapest. |
Noticed that my name has been mentioned a few time, I got one advice for ya all:
Roulette is a fast way to get rich! xD lol |
congras to your acheivement in roulette
those words i have heard from the first day i enrolled in the game. A totally misleading. |
I think the Faction Skill penalty for losing is too harsh!!
I mean good lord, at level 3 I attack 50 Poisoners and lose by 5 poisoners and I earn a whopping .07 Faction skill?
gimme a break. Rather than the current formula, scale it based on the level. I mean I tried hard to kill that many enemy and I get nothing at all, practically.
Faction skill should be based upon the total power you bring into a battle compared with the max you could bring. I know there there have been people farming skill faction at lower levels and that this addition was to limit that.
But there has to be a better way to award Faction skill than requiring that someone kill 5000 xp worth if they lose to get a .5 skill faction gain.
The scale is too rough for lower levels. That's fine when we are talking about level 8 and 9, then you can kill 5000xp pretty easily.
I could work out a better equation that takes into account current skill, max capability, etc and award a sliding scale award based on that, but I don't want to waste my time if people feel it's fine for a level 3 player to fight a Red Exclamation enemy hoping to increase the max and barely fail only to earn an exciting 34xp and .07 Skill. This is crazy IMO |
For Moderators,
Is this part of your job to jump out against EVERY opposite word?
If so, i respect your hard work. |
| [Post deleted by moderator Zyanya // Typo] |
for GGW:
I believe your last comment was trageted at me and/or Shebali as we are the only two mods posting on here recently responding to your statements. So if you have something to say about our job do it though PM. DO NOT go off-topic here. It is against forum rules and can earn you a ban for repeated violation. |
| jsut kindly suggest you guys listen different voice |
And what is that going to do, exactly, GGW?
They aren't admins, or programmers. They're just forum mods. Getting mad at them isn't going to do you any good.
I can do the math, and show that while it slows money down a little, it doesn't cause everybody to go broke. They can point to the .ru server and show how easily it was handled there, and how much it improved things. What are you offering here to counter that, besides that you somehow know that this can't work? I'm sorry that you can no longer win the game without winning a single fight (or at least it would take several lifetimes now), but I don't think there's much fun in such a game.
Mercurial- people were deliberately losing hunts like that too much. I understand why they did it, but I agree that the penalty is too harsh. There were other cases where I think they went overboard too, but I think they were not just changing the rules, but also sending a message. Hopefully they'll find a happy medium eventually. |
you are absolutely right.
pepole playing games is just for fun, to get relaxed, not to be abused and get frustrated.
so i cannot understand why removing easy huntings. just force people wear arts? it's not a right way. admin should set some bonus skill points instead to encourage plays wearing arts and winning combats. |
Or maybe add a skill relating to weapon proficiencies? this could have stirred up the economy just as much.
(must weild a weap and combat to train)
(examples:)
swordsmanship 1 (498)
archery 0 (200)
staves 0 (54)
the game staff will moniter how much this hurts peoples wallets. i would hope that if/when it is proven too drastic, we see more income implemented. |
Shibali always uses 2 big roulette winners as examples
Will you leave the roulette alone! It was amid half a dozen of examples, yet it's the only thing that you remember of what I said?
And please dont tell me about selling some sulfur to a magic powder factory or something. 12 minutes of walking through the map and back, investment of 10 000 gold and you can earn 10-15 coins if you are lucky.
On level 5 this method allowed me to build two castles (with 1st upgrade) If you never tryed it, what do you know about it? |
Do you think wooden sword is cheaper than a steel blade?
Steel blade is cheaper, actually. 16 gold per battle.
People who truly, deeply hate the new changes will leave quietly. They won't write dozens of posts on how the will leave because new rules are so terrible. They'll just go. And they won't be many. I fail to see a drastic drop of on-line number so far. We'll see if it changes much on December, 21.
On a side note: I'm so not taking part in whatever discussion takes place on that day. Apparently being a mod means I no longer can voice my opinion on forum, since obviously I've lost all my prior knowledge of the game <-- sarcasm here, if you were wondering. |
| Cheapest weapon (considering AP too) is / battle is light axe which costs 35 gold per battle for 2 AP. I really don't get how you come on 16 gold/battle for the steel blade (unless you are also including sell prices after the art has worn out) |
| unless you are also including sell prices after the art has worn out - of course. Are you saying you don't? |
