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I completely agree with this idea. If they enforce this, half the illegal transactions could be prevented at least (well somewhat anyway).
+2 And if they do add such a feature, then perhaps some restrictions regarding additionals can also be re-thought? For example, not being able to buy or rent TGI comes to mind. :)
+1 to idea.
There is no way to prove if a player is playing from the same computer or not, because MAC address isn't transmitted (only IP).
I.e. not all players will define additional character and they will still have multis.

I suggest blocking (automatically) ANY transfers and battles (maybe with some exceptions) for all players playing from the same IP. Even if there are 8-10 actually different players - this is not a big loss for them.
I thought about opening a thread about automatic rule enforcement as well, so I add my ideas here.

I think a great part of the illegal transfers occur, because people are unaware of the rules.

My idea is you have to confirm when you want to transfer more than 30% of your property and the recipient has to confirm the transfer and acknowledge that he has to return everything within a month.
The second idea is to completely suppress transfers between characters that had an IP-match within the last 24 hours.

Other than that I agree with officially labeling additional characters, but it should still be possible to switch the main, when you find for example that you skilled it unfavourably.
Agree with your main idea to decrease the illegal transfer, but, your suggestion not really a good solution.

Here's why :
F4bz is my primary char. next, i want to make another char named ganteng. So, if i make that ganteng, and i don't want to check on the box, what will u say?

I suggest blocking (automatically) ANY transfers and battles (maybe with some exceptions) for all players playing from the same IP

There's many IP hider so we can't do this too.

I think of 1 solution :
Automatic come back. after a month, the gold from add char will increase. The main char's gold will be automatically decrease.

Still don't get it?
Here's example :
Ganteng send F4bz gold, after a month, F4bz's gold will be decrease by the amount of ganteng's transfer. and ganteng's gold will be increase.

I think admin have the database of all transfer in the game, it's not that hard to accomplish the idea. Still, don't ask me bout the programming. Really bad at it.

Thx for reading my idea and my respond.
IP match doesnt work very well, some players can use proxy servers and most providers works in DCHP mode, when you connect to the internet you dont get the same IP depending on the lease time.

The best would be that players use their head and play fair, but I guess its dreams and hopes only.

Not a bad idea thought Kotrin +1
This idea is not so much about completely preventing illegal transfers, but to force cheaters to put some effort into it, this in itself will deter many and those who still cheat and are caught can be punished severely.
...And also, seriously decrease the amount of "accidental cheat": people sincerely wishing to play the game with additional characters but doing something wrong with their additional characters at a point (posting on forum, selling on market, etc.) without being really dishonest.

Additional benefit, if rules change and a admins just want to get rid of another feature for extrachars, it's instantly enforced.
I have propose this idea a long time ago.
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1843070
I do not agree with the ONLY 1 player per IP address.I play from a public library and I play two accounts(2 seperate accounts,I just like to see how well another faction does in the long run)Plus there are myself and at least 1 or 2 others here that also play (dont ask me for thier names I dont know and dont care,i just know they play sometimes,I am by far more active)
I do not agree with the ONLY 1 player per IP address.
Nobody said that, this thread is about the proper enforcement of the rules that already exist, not about making new ones.
I have propose this idea a long time ago.
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1843070


I have to give credit where credit is due - indeed, SpecialOne, you posted this idea earlier than me (well, December, not that old...)

It's still a good idea in my humble opinion, no matter who had the idea first =)
IP match doesnt work very well, some players can use proxy servers and most providers works in DCHP mode, when you connect to the internet you dont get the same IP depending on the lease time.
You can always get real IP (I'm not talking about 192.168.0.1 or 10.10.10.0 etc., which are only local, not real addresses).
There is only one real IP (in your router or in your server, or in your computer). Sometimes you can hide it by using a proxy server, but this isn't a problem, because you can force players to stop using proxy server (i.e. you can use it, but you will not be able to transfer anything to players using the same proxy).

You can find your real IP in many sites.
For example:
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.allscoop.com/phpcode.php

I do not agree with the ONLY 1 player per IP address.
Nobody is suggesting this!
You can have as many players as you want from the same IP, but you should be automatically restricted to tranfer anything to them (and maybe also fight with them, etc.).
errr.... if about IP, this can be dangerous for me because my ip address always changes everyday. My provider provide dynamic IP address.

I still think automatic debit is great idea. lol. After a month, your gold will be cut because u have loan. The bad side is : How do u know that it's not a donation.
nice..^_^
+1
I have to give credit where credit is due - indeed, SpecialOne, you posted this idea earlier than me (well, December, not that old...)

It's still a good idea in my humble opinion, no matter who had the idea first =)


Yes, you are right, Kotrin.

I want to emphasize that this is a good idea so that two people think of it. :)
I hope Admin will listen to this idea.
Just found a couple very good sites.
1) This site shows if you are using any proxy servers:
http://www.ioerror.us/ip/
2) Unbelievable info I've got here (when I clicked on "WHOIS IP" and "DIG")
http://www.showipaddress.com/

errr.... if about IP, this can be dangerous for me because my ip address always changes everyday.
Not a problem, because there is no restriction for one player to play from places which means you can have different IP.
(not many players have those IP, which you get, and you shouldn't be able to transfer to them anything - this should be done automatically, so there shouldn't be any problem for you)
I disargee.If people want to get fames and cheat people money.He used name of Kusika,Kotrin and any famous people.Who knows.Even use the name Alexander(adm) and Maxim(adm).
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You disagree with what? You can't use the same name, which is already in the game.
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