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| Author | An opposite to "I have no problem with that game" |
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I do have a problem.
It's not the AP rule, I find it very good actually.
It's not the Economy, which I find ok, in a growing state.
and it's definetly not the lags.
What bothers me is the lack of attention from the admins to any of the daily problems. It feels like the wild-west, with no sheriff around. On .ru server there is so much progress, and it seems like this server has been neglected. I've been playing on .ru since the project has been 3 months old, and here since the 1st week of the server, and now it seems like it's stuck. No law and order, no progress, nothing... So it's no wonder the on-line numbers aren't growing. Cheaters are everywhere, and nothing is being done about it. A couple of my clan mates have been hacked (due to their own stupidity, of course), but when our clan leader tried speaking to the guy who profited from the hack, the hacker had the nerve to talk back, curse, and what not, even threaten to hack his account and much more. Law and Order is inexistant, and to wait for an answer from the Secretary... well it's like waiting for the messiah who'll never come.
I know that the admins are busy with .ru server, and it will all be here sooner or later, but can't there be some more order around here, that will make it a bit friendlier and safer place for the people who don't cheat, and just want to enjoy the game? To make a "police" clan like they have on .ru, will definetly help around by my opinion, and I am sure that there are plenty of people who would like to help, and are eligible by admins POV.
Thanks for reading, whoever did.
This is not complaining. This is a call for an improvement of something that we all like. | | Fully agree | There aren't enough admins on this server to take care of the backed up, and virtually untended complaints+applications section of the forums. This has been a lingering fact since i joined the game.
There aren't enough admins reading the Secretary messages, with care and diligence, either. This is not the first time I have shared my opinion on the 'lack' of admin support this game has to offer, but surely, there are others out there who share this frustration.
As MrHellraiser mentioned, I confronted one of the hackers on this incident, and now he is harassing me, and threatening to hack me and even kill me, making sexual references about my mother, as well, just to add to the situation. I have forwarded the messages to the Secretary, and can only hope it gets read...someday.
Someone said that the Secretary does not reply to messages, and sometimes acts on them if he/she feels it worthwhile. This is a policy that must change. The Secretary should do further inquiries, and develop a rhetoric with the person(s) complaining. What sort of 'help' is 'faceless' anyway? Players need dialogue, we are all humans, and so many things get lost when an issue is viewed, and worse, judged, one-sidedly in a one-dimensional manner.
I really like this game, which is why I must say this. I hope that it becomes a better gaming community someday, but if no one is voicing their unhappiness with the way things are handled from the top on down, why would it ever change?
This is not meant to be taken as flaming. It is meant to be a constructive criticism. I would love to see more Admins actually playing the game, keeping an eye on things, because every major and successful community has a notion of policing/authority in place. Nothing would please me more than active administrators with the power to ban/fine people within minutes of obvious incursions, than months...my own little brother crazyguy has quit the game entirely because no admin would (could?) take the time to personally go over our IP logs, and see the obvious fact that he + I = 2 different people.
Our Police force (the administration) is a ghost that may, or may not even exist, as far as all those exploiters and cheaters are concerned. People get banned when it is painfully obvious, but market/artifact laundering is tougher to sniff out. Fixed battles are hard to spot. A lot of things going wrong with this game require work, and attention to detail.
I know that the admins are busy on .ru with the dwarf war, and all that stuff. But even before that, the support here was not enough. Arctic is the only person we can turn to for a "solid" answer, and even then, he loses mail because he is a one man show, he cannot single-handedley help everyone with questions on this server. I think I have received replies on 70% of my letters to Arctic asking for clarification on something, and to date, 0% with the Secretary.
It is up to us, the players, to demand more from our Admins. Maybe they think everything is good, and everyone is happy. The worst thing about this is that I come from that old school train of thought that if you don't like something, you change it.
In this case. What can we, as individuals, do to make the Owners/Administrators of this game realize that we are not satisfied with the amount of attention we get? I have donated a lot of Euros to this server, more to this server than any of the other online games I've played, but here...I get the worst support. Ironic?
Anyway, I hope this game will continue for many years to come. But there will come a day where the people will give up and quit if this does not change. For now, many of us are still in a honey-moon stage with this game, but that will pass--especially if you're donating 100+ euros each year to the server. | There already are people trustworthy enough for this, any person/ player who would sacrifice his/her own time for the sake of improvement of this game would be welcome.
The thing I do not quite understand is why members of "forum moderators clan", dont have any administration rights, it could solve many problems, no abuse would be done because they check each other(honestly I dont see any possibility of abuse from these people). If the rules of the game were forced with same quickness and precision like forum rules, we are cheater-free.
Occasional contractual combat/ begging is not a big deal, not even worth reporting sometimes, but this stuff like blackmailing, hacking those of weaker minds, is really dangerous. Maybe we should understand that accessing accounts and stealing passwords(even from the stupid ones) is protected by international law. Even when the account itself doesnt have any worth, still it is a law-protected property(it is like stealing an empty bank account). | | And even if it doesn't really cost anything as a product, there's still pretty much sentimental value... And just for example - limustudotcom "donated" well over 200 Euros from what I know, add his free time on running the clan, and being logged in here for so long and on.... This all makes the account much more valuable than money. | I agree too, I raised a CaA topic a while back and despite bumping it I have no idea if an admin has even looked at it. It was a cut and dry case of a guy who sent 100% of gold/items to his new account from 2 of his others.
Even a simple "this is being looked into" would help.
Also, I agree with the many posts (including one of mine) on players dis-satisfaction with the afk rule. The admins say they will not look into this but it appears that almost all players feel this is the single biggest issue in the game. Surely the admins priority should be to ensure their player base feel looked after and that the game will improve in the manner players wish? | The admins say they will not look into this but it appears that almost all players feel this is the single biggest issue in the game.
The afk rule will never change and it is for a good reason. If you actually enjoy this game and play it long enough to reach a high level then you wont ever see a player go afk. It is extremely rare for a level 8 player or higher to go afk for any reason other than connection problems.
The reason that there aren't more severe penalties for afk is because the admins have to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Players who miss a battle due to a dropped connection don't deserve any permanent losses or blacklisting.
Just keep in mind that players who afk on purpose will never make it to level 8 or higher (and if they do I'm sure they'll be frustrated enough to not continue).
Another thing, CaA works differently than you people seem to think. It's not a place where all of the admins go to see who's being bad in the game. There are a few accounts called "sweepers" who are given the ability to block players at will. These sweepers go through CaA every so often and skim through threads to block people. If they don't get to a thread possible reasons include:
1) The thread was not assembled correctly (be sure to look at local CaA rules).
2) The player being accused is being given a period of time to clean up his/her act; or the accused has been preforming financial assist with no more than 30% his earnings in a month... which requires further research to really know if it is the same person.
3) The thread itself did not contain the proper links to transfer logs and/or player profiles. I don't believe it's mandatory to post those links, but I wouldn't be surprised if a sweeper skipped a thread for this reason.
As for the "hackers" you all speak of... I wouldn't call them hackers because that would imply that the information they were using wasn't willfully given to them. Instead I may just call them phishers. The admins have taken action already to prevent any more phishing on this site; but there is not a whole lot they can do. It's not the admins fault at all that this happened. It's simply the ignorance of some of the players here. Honestly, anyone who blames the admins for that situation have no idea what's going on.
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Okay, now that that's all out of the way... here's a little defense to the admins. This is not only my opinion, but the opinions and observations of the majority of the English speaking staff on this site (as far as I know... I can't say I've spoken to _everyone_).
The admins have done a good amount of work on this server considering it has only been around for a year. Their biggest problem is that people on this server are always complaining that something needs to be changed. Rarely is there any constructive criticism that doesn't involve absurd changes or limiting a large part of the members to benefit the minority. | (...contd)
I would imagine the admins would be far more likely to keep up with a server when they are shown a bit more appreciation for their work. Remember, the English servers are more of a service that they are providing for those who don't speak/read Russian.
And on that note, there is a major language barrier. The admins don't speak very good English and are trying to hire people, such as Arctic, to handle much of the language on this Server.
Even though all of this is to defend the admins, it does seem Arctic is on hiatus and the admins are busy trying to keep up with a huge event on .ru. I know most of you are aware of this... but really, think about it. Why would they try and work an event here at the same time if they get way less out of it? I'm sure in time they'll come back here to get some events going but this game is their project. Past experience shows them that whether or not they were holding events on both servers at the same time, they would still be getting huge complaints here. Even when they went out and got a new host for us people were still complaining that there was "too much lag." All that lag that the people complained about wasn't even the admin's fault but people kept pushing the blame on them. Maybe I'm a little too empathetic, but geeze people the admins deserve way more credit here than people are giving them.
All together you should all be happy they took care of the phishing and lag problems. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they up and abandoned this server for a while until the people who were unappreciative left so they could get a fresh start on people who actually enjoy playing this game without the need for constant updates or complaining about every little aspect without any real warrant.
So in short, it all comes down to the fact that the admins don't need us. WE need the admins. If you can't handle it, stop playing. | the only admins are: Administration, Arctic, Maxim(adm) and Alexander(adm).
the last two are only active on .ru from the looks of it, Arctic seems to be on a vacation, which leaves administration who does not pop in anywhere other than official announcements.
four admins are not enough to manage a game of this size.
I raised a CaA topic a while back and despite bumping it I have no idea if an admin has even looked at it
Agreed, I've seen countless complaint topics where the offender and the multi are blatantly similar, the amounts transferred blatantly large, and the topics blatantly ignored. If the game is going to be better, at least set an example so people won't even be TEMPTED to cheat.
and the original topic was "I have absolutely no problem with this game" :) | for ReIncarnate:
Those are the in-game admins.
When speaking of "admins" people are usually referring to "developers," which comprise a larger group of people. The "admin" accounts are used to represent that group. It is likely there is a single person behind each of them, but the point stands that they represent the group... so it's not really just four people.
With the exception of Arctic, who is himself. | I can't agree more
I.e. I found a scam that was going on I posted it 3 times and nothing has happened about it besides me getting banned for bumping topics and double posting | | https://www.lordswm.com/clan_info.php?id=7372 anyone see this there are devlopers here maybe i dont know but from this it looks like there are | | That is certainly not a dev clan. | To prove the hack, I think that is not that easy. The only thing we can do is to TAKE CARE our account.
1. After browsing --> ALWAYS LOGOUT and CLEAN UP all our private data, where ever it is
2. DO NOT EVER TELL our password to anyone
3. Try to change ur password every day, if possible twice a day :) Try to use a very difficult string (hard combination
4. If someone offers to get ur username and password and they tell us wanna help to mine or battle everytime we not online and he is online, DO NOT GIVE THEM EVERYTHING ^^ Except if our friends that we REALLY BELIEVE :)
5. THE ONLY page to input the username and password is ONLY and ONLY : "https://www.lordswm.com/?show_login" or our home page :) "https://www.lordswm.com/" Do not ever try to input any username or password or everything info that u regards as important infos to another URLS but them :)
It is called SOCIAL ENGINEERING, to hack people, not computer ..
Best regards,
Randhy | | for ipslne: U mean that it is a CRACKERS CLAN ?? | | I think you need to chill on your caps lock and learn about what you're trying to say before you say it. | | i think he meant a fake clan are quackers clan | From Post 14:
Except if our friends that we REALLY BELIEVE :)
3.7. Password transfer to a different user and collective account managing are forbidden.
And in keeping to the topic, the only issue I see in this game is what MrHellRaiser and limustudotcom has pointed out, the lack of policing in the game.
I do hope that mods be given a wider range of powers, such as the ability to punish cheaters, since our local mods are more often logged on than the sweepers and admins.
From Post 8:
So in short, it all comes down to the fact that the admins don't need us. WE need the admins. If you can't handle it, stop playing.
I'm not agreeing with this, since a successful game require two-way interaction, not one-way. If people starts quitting this game due to unattended legitimate complaints, it means that something is not right either with the game, or the management. In any case, admins need us, the players to donate to the game, to keep their wallets in check, and also for the purpose of word-of-mouth advertising, in the case of non-paying players such as me. | | I was referring more to the English servers ;) Not the game in general. | So in short, it all comes down to the fact that the admins don't need us. WE need the admins. If you can't handle it, stop playing.
This is a one-sided view that's similar to something like "the admins are always right". It's true that there's lots of players who complain for no good reason, but it doesn't mean that the admin are always doing things right. The points brought up by MrHellRaiser and limustudotcom are valid and reasonable, hopefully you can see both sides of the story. |
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