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There in game money flow increase so it is pushing prices up (for Theft arts, hunter arts, and elements)
There are lot of ppl who complain about money shortage, but actually in big scale we see the money amount among players increase - so the rare item prices (not shop arts),
We need new events where could use stock shop arts and reduce money amount in game... |
I agree with you on the problem, but not the why it is happening.
I believe it is because the admins keep adjusting the mines so that multis could enroll and then transfer gold to their mains to increase prices. This is why there's inflation, but at the same time many players are short on gold.
If admins stopped adjusting the facilities and started blocking all the cheaters, then most of our inflation problems would stop. |
If admins stopped adjusting the facilities and started blocking all the cheaters, then most of our inflation problems would stop.
Agreed 110% |
admins stopped adjusting the facilities
where will you have gold? =.= |
I can't tell for thief and hunter arts, but I'm quite sure Element prices are the result of a massive market manipulation. I carefully check the skill level of various Enchanters around and few of them have much work lately.
Since players have no limit to the number of Elements they can own, buying Elements to raise prices then selling one's stock later is working very well.
The manipulation is obvious when you look an the most expensive elements: all the Elemental ones (Fire Crystal, Meteorite shard, Ice Crystal and Wind Flower). However, if some Weapon enchanter was making incredible deals on some kind of enchantment (Air enchant for example) then the side Element (Witch bloom in this case) would be demanded and its cost would rise as well. The only possible explanation would be that all Elements are being used for Armor enchanter, but the price rise has been lasting so long we should be 4*10% armor smiths around!!!
I really don't think it's a matter of mains and mults. ^_^ |
I wouldnt say, that there is a lot of money in this game. It is so easy for DE to ambush with min arts, but necro needs almost full art set. I need about 50k gold to rebuy my arts, and I am not using the best possible...
About elements price, dont you think that some elements you get more often that the others?
If you get 10 toadstools and only one windflower, it is normal, that windflower is more expensive that toadstool... |
we should be 4*10% armor smiths around!!!
I think the first 4*10% armoror will be half year, even 1 year later... |
im not angry about higher elements prices,i dont make enchant,i only sell them.and i dont think is in game too much gold,maybe for dark elves,like said #6,for DE is everything easier,dont need too much and can win everything.On the other side are for example wizards,they have to use spell arts,which cost is more expensive.And sometimes it isnt very fair,because i cant make succesfull hunts and MQ without spell power,every faction[except barbars] can use magic,but who really use it? only wizards |
im not angry about higher elements prices
Did I appear angry? I hope I wasn't appearing angry. I'm just looking at the phenomenon. I have plenty of enchanted artifacts, and a big stock of elements to boot. I'm neither selling nor buying, just an observer.
I still wonder why Elements here are double the price of .ru ones. There's definitely something fishy undergoing here. Bubbles tend to burst after a while, so we'll live interesting times if (when) Element price crumbles, from all people trying to control the market. |
Kotrin rise of elements and thief arts. Thief set is something rare, elements too. With 10-20 players with large stock of multi gold, they can buy many elements and affect prices. Also few guys buying thief amulets or full set do the same.
There are many older cheaters + players with high laborers guild and not much new players. At .ru, elements cost half the price because that server is growing. New players = element sellers. People above level 8 dont produce elements, they just buy them for enchants.
Bring new players, it will stop your inflation. I believe its not price manipulation but lack of elements from lower level players. |
You are right, but only to a point. A pristine Sword of Might has 80 durability. There are 90% repair available here. Do you have an idea of the time it takes to wear one out? I own one from December '08 and it's still 9/67.
Perhaps there are people like you describe. But they are using a full set of enchanted arts, are high level, and with tons of money to burn. I haven't seen many players fulfilling this description. Even top players here don't have a full enchanted set.
But you are right on a point: it may be annoying if Element buyers are cheaters and get blocked, because their Elements won't return :/ |
they are using a full set of enchanted arts, are high level, and with tons of money to burn
Who's calling my name? :)
Back to serious: while I may seem to have too much gold (imagine the ammount of begging mail I'm getting...), in fact I'm in "300k minus". I am about to finish my elf career, and I would like to train both DE _and_ knight/demon after it. But building up two castles to lvl 12 costs 1.2M+ gold...
So I don't think that any (serious) player in this game has too much gold. Building up all castles to lvl 14 and getting a full enchanted set costs about 7M gold; it is clear that nobody in this game can afford it. And is there anyone who isn't dreaming about being able to play any faction he/she wants, any time he/she wants...
About elements: IMO the prices are high mainly because of massive manipulation (I can tell some names in pm, if someone is interested, but watching the market is enough) and in a smaller part because of the vast ammount of wannabe enchanters. |
IMO the prices are high mainly because of massive manipulation (I can tell some names in pm, if someone is interested, but watching the market is enough)
also, check the trading forum. Half of the elements buyers are not enchanters. But they keep raise the trading price, as they can sell them at a even higher price on market. poor for enchanters. :(
Bubbles tend to burst after a while, so we'll live interesting times if (when) Element price crumbles, from all people trying to control the market.
I can't wait to see it :) |
The elements price will reach a crisis. You cannot accuse few skript using losers for the prices. Windflower from 4500 to 6800. Its been ages since I have bought any elements from market. And it is not possible through forum, because there are just too many "traders" bumping and reselling. |
The prices are also high because there aren't that many elements on this server...so few people are doing merc missions...so few are actually playing lol. A lot of the "online" players are just 2nd/3rd characters of other main ones as well.
I wonder--truely--how many "real" distinct players there are left on this server. Increase the number of players, and the prices will come down. |
another issue i'd like to address is the probability of looting elements in merc quest is too low. my record is 23 wins without elements in last few weeks. that also causes the shortage of available elements on this server. |