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AuthorToo much ap
for DerMagus:

Taking from the 'Help files' in about the game forums.

"Note that wearing mini-artifacts is a luxury."

Also, sooner or later, you will get them for free, reduced in efficiency but free. :) Smile
That is one of the most ridiculous lines in the manual and i dispute its truth; it is certainly true for the price of the mini-arts. Now try matching your troops with another player's on the same level - without arts. I bet on your opponent.
Since mini-arts are wizardss racial skill, I definitely agree that you can't count them for the purpose of determining AP. Telling them not to wear mini-arts is like telling the Knight not to use his Training ability.

On the other hand, since wizards unfairly have 2 racial abilities (and two extremely powerful ones at that), instead of one, it's not too unfair to strip them of one.

Regarding AP in GB, I think that if everyone observes the limit as specified by the challenger, then we'd have more group battles. Otherwise, everyone would just wait for someone to put up a challenge so that he can (cowardly, I'd say) jump in only if he/she has an advantage. Too bad the Admin doesn't implement a UI for AP limit, like they did for level limit.

One rule that I think no one should specify is "No diamond upgrade". Not that I have diamond upgrade, but for the sake of the game, people who helps out financially should be able to enjoy a little benefit. That is one rule I think you should freely ignore. I never begrudge an opponent who uses a diamond upgrade to whip my behinds.
Regarding AP in GB, I think that if everyone observes the limit as specified by the challenger, then we'd have more group battles. Otherwise, everyone would just wait for someone to put up a challenge so that he can (cowardly, I'd say) jump in only if he/she has an advantage. Too bad the Admin doesn't implement a UI for AP limit, like they did for level limit.

That is one of the main reasons for the new Gb Tourney clan. You can depend on everyone following your joining restrictions or they wont remain in the clan long. Anything which encourages more fair GBs is good :D
for DerMagus:

I think you dont understand the point here. Having +3 Luck on each of your mini-arts for each your creatures makes you able to weird other artifacts to boost them, no need for Ring of Doubt + Amulet of Luck, can't you see that ?

Your troops are as strong as Necromancer for sure, statwise.

A vampire stat:
6 att, 6 defense, 6-9 dmg, 11 init, 30 life

A magi stat:
10 att, 10 defense, 7-7 dmg, 10 init, 18 hp

Where you fail to see that mini-arts brings your troops Higher statwise ?
25 : "Where you fail to see that mini-arts brings your troops Higher statwise?"

Where do you fail to see that miniarts are a racial skill?

Your example is bad too . You compare wizard troops to necro troops . Everyone knows that necros and wizards have the weakest units . And those vampires still have much better stats than the magi . More initiative, more speed , almost twice the hp , more damage. Miniarts make the magi only roughly equal.
and then the necro still gets HIS racial ability : efficient ressurect and + skeletons....
for Neoptolemos:

Hmm, 4 attack and 4 defense is still a good boost over the vamps, dont you think ?

Also, efficient raise, lol ask any level 8+ necromancer :)
Yes, the Skeletons is the strongest stack of all necromancer.

And why can't I compare necromancer and wizard troops ?
Theres an error in my post on 25
The dmg of Vamps are 6-8, not 6-9, which make the two units having the exact same dmg.

Also I would add to post 27
Why comparing the speed when you can cast and shoot ?
You can hve more magi then vampires (for balancing effect)

And Wizards, as said in another post, has 2 racial. Live with it, one is extremely costy.
Dark elf has the best troops,
elf next
barb
demon
knight
necro
wiz

Why we talking about wizards?
Anyway i should stop buying arts because i am not thiefing.
Sorry, but this thread wandered too far in off-topic. If you want to discuss the effect of mini-arts and/or compare troops, create appropriate threads.
closed by Lord Kotrin (2009-10-21 11:07:27)
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