| Author | why my griffins not counter? |
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at the forum says that unlimited creatures can counter the attack of the no retaliation creatures
but when my griffins attcked by creatures such as vampires
it does not counter...
what is this? |
| They have no retaliation ability. |
for Knightee:
Unlimited retaliation attack creatures CANNOT retaliate against No Retaliation creatures without the hero having the Concentration talent |
without the hero having the Concentration talent
You cant get that talents unless youre level 17.
It might look cool to new players when they study their talent wheel, but its impossible to get. |
You cant get that talents unless youre level 17.
It all depends what faction you are. Some can get it a lot earlier e.g. around levels 10/11. |
| Actually barbarian seems to be the only one who can get this talent. But barbarians dont seem to like defence. |
wizard : never
dark elf : never
demon : 68 points
knight: 66 points
necromancer: 66 points
elf: 74 points
barbarian: 36 points
So yes, barbarian is the only faction that can learn it, at level 11.
But for some weird reason, barbarians dont need expert defence and tactics, while it is on their talent wheel.... |
| no impossible to get that talen before lvl 17 unless another faction has 7 talent points for defence? then it's like lvl 15. still impossible... |
still impossible...
barbarian: 36 points |
| ah yeh just checked, it's only in the 2nd layer for them. they are lucky |
| Actually, someone tried it (on the barbar faction topic I think), and it turns out it doesn't work that well apparently. You don't retaliate to every single hit, you just hit first I believe it was. Plus, barbarians have no units with unlimited retaliation. |
yes found the thread:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1841342
isn't what i was expecting but still good, would be cool with knights just camping in the corner guarding our xbows :D |
| It makes a defending unit retaliate before the attack, even if the attacker has No Retaliation ability. The offense talents are usually a better choice for barbarians...especially in PvP when the opponent can easily avoid hitting a defending unit. Unless they don't know about it, in which case it's a great way to make a DE lose the shrews, the duel and their face in one move. |
| It would be perfect for griffins. We attack before the shrew or vamps hit and again after and, with unlimited retaliation, we could do that every time the griffins are attacked. I would be all over this if we Knights got it as early as Barbarians (and if I was at a high enough level, of course). |
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Yep, as long as the knight cast evasion on the griffin... it sure would. |
We attack before the shrew or vamps hit and again after and, with unlimited retaliation, we could do that every time the griffins are attacked
It does not work like that (the text describing talent is not correct) |
| I'm assuming that since Griffins have unlimited retal that it would be, umm, unlimited. Since the Barb who tried it has no troops with that ability you can't assume as well that it only triggers once for troops that do have it. |
| From when I tried it, it only works once per defend, so you click defend once, and the talent only works once until you press defend on that stack again |
| That's exactly my point. None of the Barbs troops has unlimited retal, so it is only right that they retal once per defend, but for a troop with the unlimited retal ability, why should it not work every time? Is anyone understanding why I'm thinking of it this way? |
| I'm only arguing this because since it has not been tried by a troop with that ability, I am speaking hypothetically and, hypothetically, it seems possible. |
