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This was a message I've posted about a complain in the forum.
I would like to post it here, because i want to make an end to this type of behaviour.
Just one thing before: MrNiceGuy was insulted by one guy because he teamed up with another player.
This was the message:
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I would like to say sorry to all moderators, users and other intelligence beings visiting this thread. I know that third parts are not allowed, but I think that it is important to explain why those people were insulting MrNiceGuy.
Because they don't know how to play an everyone for oneself battle.
It's the same thing over and over again. People who don't know how to play in the battlefield trying to match up again in a forum. Men, you should really create a new clan, "Forum Warriors". And I think that you could become the largest clan in this server.
The fact is that in efo (everyone for oneself) battles "temporary treaties are allowed". To attack everyone on the battlefield is a very DUMB move. I wrote dumb, because calling one "noob" is became an insult, but you must know that this should be the right indication for this type of actions.
And to insult someone because he is doing the most conveniet thing, well, it's even more stupid, really. Because every intelligent player knows that if someone shows no interest for you, attacking all the others except you (and the others are battling each others), well, to be an ally for him it's the best thing to do. Why to kill him? Maybe the other two players will ally with your "victim", against you. And you would be dead very soon.
Better to try to take down the others. With your new friend.
It's not so difficult to understand it, really. Taking down an enemy with your temporary ally, and then turn against him later, when all the other menaces are defeated. Not so difficult to think about it, right?
But no, it seems to be very difficult. It's more simple to whine every time, to insult the others, to call them "rats" (a recent episode).
And I know that this will be all futile. The great part of the people who are wrong will continue to be wrong, because they don't want to become a better player, they only desire to win without thinking too much. To all these players, I say: just because you are playing with a 5 years old' tactic, it's not written that all the others should do the same thing.
To the small part of players who want to improve themselves in the efo battle, i can only suggest you to do what I am suggesting you to do.
My two cents
Luckas
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Just an add to this thing: I talk because I am quite experienced in this type of fight. But I will not join them again, because this is a game, and I don't want to be insulted for it by some bad losers.
Hoping to be helpful for the community,
Luckas | | Wrong title: it should be "About the Everyone for Oneself" battles. | | Everything you wrote is normal in efo. It is EVERYONE FOR ITSELF FFS! Tactics and battle is individual for this type of battle. No clan, itd. | | Well, Mellor, actually these are not so normal things, looking at the sum of the complaints about this. | Well, I saw that battle. MrNiceGuy was obviously cooperating with another guy from EW from start till the end. But since last blindfold turnament, we all should know, that this is the way how EW are playing efo.
Lucas you wrote a very nice theory about playing efo, but it wasnt this case. That fight wasnt about temporary aliance, it was about cooperating two guys from one war clan.
MrNiceGuy with his mate have broken the spirit of efo. I fuly understand why were other players angry. Who didnt saw the battle, here is link:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=18153746 | #1
unless it's prearranged alliance, everything you said is ok. but somehow, that little icon before MrNice's nick tells me that whatever happened, wasn't all so nice in reality. because EW proved to be one big rats' nest | | Teaming up is NOT elegal. If you don't like the way the tournament is designed, then don't play it. I didn't play the tournament myself. | | to Fulminata: we are not talking about tournament fight :D. This was normal efo fight two days ago. | 5: sorry but you don't know what you're talking about..
i have never talked to the guy before, not before, and not after the fight, my tactic was the same as always in efo's, kill the wizard first if there is anyone close to me, and for some reason the necro decided to help, why would i object to that?
after the wizard was killed i had no chance of killing the necro, so attacking him there would be suicide, so again, why would i do it?
towards the end of the fight i chose to help the necro for 1 reason only, i hate whiners, and with all the whining from pretty much everyone else in that fight i just wanted them to die first..
i'm really sorry if you take this the wrong way, but if you can't see the logic behind the way i played, you must really lack some basic tactical knowledge.. but afterall, it isn't anything new, the ones who doesn't know how to play start whining and comes up with a lot of excuses, so sad... | @Markussk: well, i take this battle as an example, but i was insulted for a similar thing in an other battle (and the guy who insulted me has been punished).
About the fact you are accusing EW of teaming up, I can say you to look at your own clan, at the fact that very few of yours joined without a mate on their side. But i didn't supposed that they do this intentionally (I can provide you a link, if you want).
I always gave them the benefit of the doubt, something you all didn't do with us.
And i have to say that EW didn't do the worst things. To predetermine a winner is a much worst thing, according to the tournament spirit. But I didn't saw the same angryness that everyone show for us against those people. Sad thing.
And you are saying that if two people belong to the same clan, they cannot be ally on the battlefield. Wow. So better not to joina ny clan, you can surely live a quiet life.
@Korzika: you already taken a ban for your lenguage. I thought i was clear with you: I don't want to hear anyone called rat. Keep this topic clear from this, please.
We are here to talk about EFO battle, not about EW. Because it's very common to be insulted in this type of battle, even if you don't belong to a clan. I'm just trying to explain the mechanic of this type of battle, in order to see a good sportmanship in them. | | "unless it's prearranged alliance, everything you said is ok. but somehow, that little icon before MrNice's nick tells me that whatever happened, wasn't all so nice in reality. because EW proved to be one big clan of brave lions", is what i meant | Easy to fix such problem :D
The winner takes all, no more best ratio for second place. Then everyone would fight for first place and MrNiceGuy would have turned against the Necro to actually win the fight, teaming up with the one that were weaker to try to overpower the necromancer.
Thats how everyone should play, TO WIN ! | to 10: I am sure that every big clan, military or not are doing the same thing. But only you are writing about it on forum. You cant be surprised that people dont like your clan after ViSaos speach at the end of blindfold tournament.
Most people that I know are playing to win. It means, to attack the strongest player in efo and changing aliances acording to strength of players.
But MrNiceGuy wasnt play the usual way. He didnt try to cooperate against the strongest player. He was supporting him till the end.
MrNiceGuy told: "after the wizard was killed i had no chance of killing the necro". In that time there were 5 players in the fight. Anyone could win. Players from EW were two most powerful players in fight, their units were close and they still didnt attack each other. It was like MrNiceGuy wanted the necro to win.
I saw the fight before I wrote anything on forum. My opinion is that they were cooperating becouse they are in one MC. But I also posted link here, so anyone can see it and make his own opinion... | "Players from EW were two most powerful players in fight"
again you are wrong, i was, without a doubt, the weakest player in the fight at that time, i had 2 options, the first one was attacking the necro and finish the fight in a 5th place, the second one was hoping for the necro not to attack me and finish 2nd, so again i'd like to ask you, what is the smart move?
"It was like MrNiceGuy wanted the necro to win."
no, not from the beginning, but as i said earlier, towards the end i did, because of all the whining from the others.
so believe whatever you want, but still, if you can't see the logic behind it, you must really be a poor tactician.. | for MrNiceGuy:
Thats exactly what I was saying in post 10.
You never played to win, you played to finsh second. First loser :D | | Thats exactly what I was saying in post12 | @Markussk: so according to your way of thinking, I should don't like you because Makkadihm ganged up with one of your clan to defeat me in one battle? o.O...
That's pretty ridicolous, you know. And is even more ridicolous to judge an entire group of people from the word of his leader. We are not an hive mind, you know, everyone has his own idea.
Prejudice are always sad, you know. I don't think that every Dark Alliance member is a teamer, i don't think that every Euopean Foreign Legion' member is a teamer, I don't think that every Warrior Guild Wrath' member is a saint, I don't know that every League of Shadows member is a teamer. I have friends in each of this clan, people who i like and people who i dislike.
But to generalize is ridicolous.
@Dan-Panic: look better at the battle, try to think at the situation. He played well, since he cannot win. And he played logically.. very curious about one of your EFO battle, but i fear to see exactly waht I'm thinking...
@Korzika: in Italy we have a word which coincide with lion final letters. Find it. (Ps: the italian word for lion is "leone", find the word that coincide with him and you will have a good definition of what I am thinking about you after your posts).
To everyone: i am talking about GENERAL EFO battle, not about this. Don't stick your mind to the eternal anti-EW war, try to open your mind for just one time. | for Luckas:
No, you dont actually understand, everyone for self is not about getting the best place possible and leaving the strongest player to win. Its to chase for the WIN, so the logical idea is to always go against the strongest, teaming up with the weakest, that makes well much more a nice and close battle that way :)
Even if you finish 5 or 2, you are still a loser :) | | [Post deleted by moderator Kotrin // Oh well] | to 17: you didnt get it, I explained it to you in pm, becouse it is of topic
I agree with Dan-Panic. In efo everyone should try to win, not to be second. But there is a lot of players, who are not going for first place :( |
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