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thief getting uneven caravans


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Authorthief getting uneven caravans
most of the ambush pros (ie people with high TG) usually wear the same arts:

Steel arts (helm, boots and cuirass)
Defender Shield
SoM
Amulet of luck or bravery
Cape of Wind*

They just keep using this combination, over and over, and eventually...they win enough to justify their time.

Cheers,
LS

*This one is a tossup, I'd say half wear it and half don't. I usually wear it.
for Margorita:
I watched several of your ambushes. I thought the first thing you need is to improve your tactics instead of complain about the win ratio. I thought tons of things need to be improved.
#21

I'm wearing mine minimum set of arts, and feel good with them! :))
When you defeat a caravan, it's strength next time is increasing by ~10%
When you loose a caravan, it's strength next time is decreasing by ~5%

So, whatever - full enchanted arts, good tactics or even lucky random - would you have, the win:loose ratio will be always 1:2
the win:loose ratio will be always 1:2
That's only true if you play an unlimited number of combats. It is entirely possible to get better than 10:1 win ratio from TG0 to TG5.
That's only true if you play an unlimited number of combats.

I'm going to play an unlimited number of combats! :)))
I'm going to play an unlimited number of combats! :)))

I'll race you there! :)
@24 My statistics don't support these numbers
#28

I got these percents by analysing received exp after successful ambushes
Sorry for my mult's post )))
@29 I've checked my tables and in 4 concecutives wins against the same caravan type, the ammount of exp revealed no pattern to draw any conclusions from.

06-11-10 17:32 Ranor[11] vs Caravan of necromancers
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490188831

06-12-10 08:40 Ranor[11] vs Caravan of necromancers
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490199334

06-26-10 16:13 Ranor[11] vs Caravan of necromancers
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490517112

07-02-10 05:57 Ranor[11] vs Caravan of necromancers
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490632354

Exp gained: 4814 / 5793 / 5848 / 5711

First 3 ambushes in min AP, last with slightly more.
Change of exp: 20% / 1% / -2%

Therefore I don't think that experience gained is reliable function for caravan strength.
#32

Necro caravan can't be used as example, cause it raises different stacks and different amount of troops in different battles, so your exp differs very much!
that's right. guess what? since the new update, knight is having hard time on thieving with big map; consider our major strength - guardians are having short leg and too fat, take age for them to get near to chop other.


i still love thieving!
#32

Necro caravan can't be used as example, cause it raises different stacks and different amount of troops in different battles, so your exp differs very much!

Do you really get exp from raised units? As far as I know, it doesn't count, but I may mix up with gated units. Though, it wouldn't make sense: it means you'd get much more exp from killing a raising necro than a might necro...
Do you really get exp from raised units? As far as I know, it doesn't count, but I may mix up with gated units. Though, it wouldn't make sense: it means you'd get much more exp from killing a raising necro than a might necro...

Raised units give exp. Gated units do not.
There is a diminishing returns to the exp from raised units. Generally the raising doesn't give that much more exp.
1.Amount of XP and amount of HP has nothing to do with strenght of caravan after losing/winning caravan.
2. Decrease after loss is 2,5~3% only
Everything already proved in previous topics about caravans. I have complete statistics of my caravans (type of caravan, units, XP,...) from 1st February 2010 so I know what Im talking about;)
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.
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