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AuthorHelp on phantoms
I have seen in lv 10 and above battles that elves do a lot of damage maybe even most because of their critical damage but when i once was seeing a battle i saw that a wiz used fireball on elves they had 2 phantoms one of GM bows and one of anchorites they both died . So, what i'm trying to say is that we should use wasp swarm or some very low mana using spell on them and we can take out phantoms like 80 EFK out in one small wasp swarm .
Tell me what you guys think.
The more easy way to kill a stck of phantoms is using a spell of poison.

If you use a spell of wasp swarm or other ddirect damage spell , the phantom have a chance of miss the spell , but with poison there is no way always die except you can remove the poison before the phantom stack´s turn.
Relevant info -

https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=31 (spells)

https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=32 (Special Abilities)

From the description of Summon Phantom (section 31) Clones target allied stack. The phantom is not able to use spells and activated abilities of the original, receives the same amount of ammo as the original creature possesses, disappears as soon as suffers any damage. However, the phantom is incorporeal, having a 50% chance to be missed by physical attacks.

Incorporeal description can be found in special abilities (section 32), although it's essence is captured in the description above. So fireball damages an area, and any damage to a Phantom stack causes it to disappear. You could use Wasp's Swarm, but Fireball can damage other things at the same time (like the original stack which should be right next to it).

Have Fun

Grunge
Just a note that most spells that deal damage ignore Incorporeal, except Magic Punch which is treated as a physical attack.

Grunge
Yup, Fireball's definitely better. Especially since, even if it DOES miss the phantom, it can still do damage to whatever stacks are around it.
All chaos magic will always hit phantoms or ghosts, it will never miss. And as soon as the phantom gets hit it is destroyed.
magic always hits phantoms (except for magic punch)
#2 is wrong, magic always does kill phantoms. look posts 6 and 7.

magic punch is not a magic, it deals physical damage, therefore there is a chance to miss.

all the chaos magic, wasps from nature and poison from dark schools always hit both phantoms and ghosts.
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