| Author | TGI -- Any point saving for it ? |
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for Straws:
for Sven91:
but it wasn't announced in the official news, and back then i hadn't readf orum much, thought the news itself would be sufficient.
still, to block a clear character only for one bid (i didn't win and wasn't any close to it with puny 200k bid), it's cruel.
especially when so many cheaters are openly sending gold between their multiple accounts or using scripts like crazy, preventing others from selling or buying resources, or those scammers who are trying to lure passwords (i sent such PMs to the Secretary many times, but only one of them was blocked), my alt was surely the worst!
By the way, you guys probably should know, what about Juries? There was an idea to make a jury court or something. i was told back then that juries might help me. but the hope has almost faded away.. |
The reason being is that no matter how low/high the price is, it doesn't matter. At TG5 you will get TGI back.
I dont think so
For example:
I buy TGI year 2010 for 1 million
I get TG5 year 2011
the price will be raised of course
I sell TGI year 2011 for 1.5 million
+ Thief arts
+Gold gained from ambushes will be over 10 000 gold
You dont get the money back,you get more money back
Thats how you gain 600 000 gold on TGI
-Arts cost of course
But thats your problem
TGI is worth its price,but its hard to get. |
I sell TGI year 2011 for 1.5 million
The price will go down probably due to updates
-Arts cost of course
You can always do it min AP |
@Jiang_Wei
Good summary, but there are 2 conditions.
1) Game must survive 1 year.
2) Player mush survive 1 year.
80 diamons ?
I could spent (risk) 4-5 for it.
80 is absolutely not worth for game without support, admins, upgrades and any guarantee server will not down tomorrow. |
Forget it. Just ask yourself these few questions to judge whether TGI is worth it for you to buy or not.
1. Do I have around 50k gold surplus after buying TGI for repairing and full arts? If you are at a higher level, u probably need more gold surplus.
(It is dumb to wear mini AP arts for ambush because u will have higher chance of getting defeated and therefore, wasting your equipments durability and get nothing.)
2. Do I plan to continue playing this game for few more years? (Maybe 1 or 2 years long.)
2.1 Is this game worth your time to continue playing?
Give yourself some reasons like:
(
Yes, it is worth playing because unlike any other games, this game is not too addictive so it does not take up much of your time like other MMORPG or browser-based strategy games.
No, I may get bored due to a lack of updates, cheaters using scripts or whatever reasons. No, by the time, I reach TG 5, get an invitation and sell it, I would be sick of this game already and quit.
)
3. Look at yourself in the mirror. Give yourself a smack in the face and ask, "Gosh, why am I looking at myself in the mirror and slapping myself?" |
(It is dumb to wear mini AP arts for ambush because u will have higher chance of getting defeated and therefore, wasting your equipments durability and get nothing.)
Most higher level players would disagree on that one, especially the ones who reach 4+ TG, wearing fulll arts is a waste. |
| Probably. |
(It is dumb to wear mini AP arts for ambush because u will have higher chance of getting defeated and therefore, wasting your equipments durability and get nothing.)
Most higher level players would disagree on that one, especially the ones who reach 4+ TG, wearing fulll arts is a waste.
I'm not going to say whether it's a waste or not, but after wearing full enchanted arts to TG5, your win rate drops a lot. I started to wear min arts to not waste my enchanted full arts. If you are going to lose, does it really matter what arts you wear? And no, I'm not comparing losses in turn 1 with ones where you kill almost the entire caravan. I'm comparing whether you kill 1% of the caravan with 10%. |
lol
you are either a complete fool or have way too much money and don't know what to do with it if you do ambushes in full arts (with enchantments its even crazier)
All ambushes in min AP: eventually you ll win around 20% of your ambushes
All ambushes in full arts: eventually you ll win around 25% of your ambushes
All ambushes in full arts with enchants: eventually you ll win around 30%
Only difference is for the players you ambush, in full arts they are easier to defeat than in min AP
If you lose to a caravan it doesnt matter how much AP you are wearing, their strenght will always decrease with the same percentage.
So if you started ambushing in min AP for a long time and then switch to full AP. Then for a short time your win ratio will be high. But after that it will be back to usual with the only difference that each fight you pay 10 times as much as before regarding artifacts cost |
I have another solution to this problem.
Create 2 toons right from the start. The first toon which is your main, take it slowly and enrol alot and use for card games (but dont gamble). The goal of this toon is to perform minimal battles i.e. 1 battle from 10 enrols, and to raise funds to get the TGI. It would also be worthwhile to advance in Gamblers Guild at the same time.
The other toon which you take as your secondary character, use it to have fun in the meantime i.e. lots of hunts, duels, merc quests, pvp etc.
I also don't think TGIs will get much higher in price. The reason is just before the change to the TGI system there was an "oversupply" of TGIs on the market. At one stage they were around the 350000 gp mark with 10 or so on the market at any one point in time. When the players who got a TGI during the glut days get to TG5, TGI's should appear on the market with more frequency. And that should put a little downward pressure on the price.
Almost certainly, prices will never come down to the 350000 gp mark again, but I expect them to eventually stabilise around the 1 to 1.2 million mark. This price is achievable for the patient player.
Cheers |
| I guess at higher level full arts for hunt may not be necessary. However, at lower level it does matter. There was once a thief wizard with mini arts and he failed to rob me. After that, all the thieves (mostly wizards) have full or almost full arts equipped. |
| Forgot to mention that their mini-arts are also pretty annoying at times. |
| if u have plenty of gold then wear full arts! u dont have to wear mini-arts! |
All ambushes in full arts with enchants: eventually you ll win around 30%
After 600 wins, for me it was more like around 40%.
you are either a complete fool or have way too much money and don't know what to do with it if you do ambushes in full arts (with enchantments its even crazier)
Actually I was quite poor back then. It was just that 2 years ago there's was no Ambushing FAQ and I (many other players as well) thought that caravan difficulty only went up (like hunts and merc quests).
for ZioBlade:
No matter what level, arts always matters quite a bit. But other factors are your character stats (factions, guilds), talents, strategies used, and of course the factions. |
Actually I was quite poor back then. It was just that 2 years ago there's was no Ambushing FAQ and I (many other players as well) thought that caravan difficulty only went up (like hunts and merc quests).
there are a few exceptions.
For example; just before the TGI system changed many people tried to race towards TG4 to get their second TGI :)
But for now, you are either a fool or too much money. |
just before the TGI system changed many people tried to race towards TG4 to get their second TGI
By that time I had already reached TG5 many months beforehand and was too poor to continue thieving. I had already given up ambushing for many months by that time.
But for now, you are either a fool or too much money.
Actually now it's neither. Around level 12-13 for some reason I'm able to get over 0.5 fsp for a loss. I don't know if it has something to do with TG lvls, all the various changes, caravan size, or combat level, but an ambush loss turning from 0.1 fsp to 0.5 fsp is quite good. So losing is good in of itself as well now.
As for gold, no, I'm still poor. I still don't have enough for my castles. I'm missing many buildings for each of my castles. |
| I'm just doing my best saing up god until I get to 1mil. I guess by that time TGI prices might just go down . . . MIGHT just go down. Lol! |
I still find it very weird. Almost 90 percent of the thieves I met, wore almost full arts.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=492721941
This is the most recent thief battle I had and he has almost full arts (except the cloak slot) with elemental enchantment. |
