| Author | Will New LG Rule (if implemented) make any real difference ? |
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Emphasis on REAL.
Will New LG Rule (if implemented) make any REAL difference ?
( I have seen lot of people dreading new LG rule)
Before some people start explaining the diff between the .com and .ru LG diff to me (as some people will be tempted to... its fun to state the obvious and seem witty) read the question again.
Reason for asking :-
As people are so fond of citing James Denham-Steuart/ Adam Smith's Supply and demand model whenever high prices of TGI are mentioned, will the same not apply now?
Hunter/MH/GH/TG arts and elements are the ones that have fluctuating prices, so they will stabilize [just like TGI price will;) ] to come at par with the spending capacity of the consumers.
Now coming to Shop arts- I will take my own example Combat level-5 ; LG-4.
Assuming base wage of 180 X 1.6 (.ru LG) = 288 per enroll
Min AP = 5 i.e. Sword of retribution per battle cost = 74 .
I don't fight Full AP all the time, So i think i can survive the .ru LG update if implemented here.
So back to the question , will it make any real difference or after a brief bout of crying foul, protests etc. it will be business as usual?
Lots of love ,
Yuvika |
| watch my account where is 18k from that 10k is debt money so yes its a big deal:) |
Let's see. At the moment many people are barley surviving - and the end of each day their income barley cover their cost.
What will happen after such a LG update?
And the end of each day their income barley cover HALF of their cost. |
if the rule will be implimented here, the server will die quite fast, because the rule means we have to win a thief, duel (equal lvs), GB (equal lvs) or a hunt ALONE.
this means that very fast we wont be able to keep enrolling for full wage, so yes it will make a real difference |
You try ambush with min Ap art..See how many you could win
Please don't just talk |
Simple theory: Let say you try promote a office boy to become a manager..does it make sense?
our server still growing..and its far behind than .ru 1 year.. |
| I am loosing money any day just doing hunts, ambushes and quests at min AP ... soon I will need to wear more AP to win any fight ... so, what do you think? |
Yes.
Most of players income is from enroll maybe not that much difference on lower lvls but on high lvls difference is 50%. At lvl 14 u needed 900k+ for changing faction just to build all buildings. Now it will take twice as much time to collect the money. Not to mention if they intent to add new arts for lvls 13-14. they will be also more expensive. |
You try ambush with min Ap art..See how many you could win
For that my dear i need a TGI
for which... lets see...
90 enrolls - 180 * 90 * 1 = 16,200 @ LG 0
next 90 enrolls - 180 * 90 * 1.2 = 19,440 @ LG 1
next 180 enrolls - 180 * 180 * 1.5 = 48,600 @ LG 2
next 360 enrolls - 180 * 360 * 2 = 129,600 @ LG 3
next 780 enrolls - 180 * 780 * 2.5 = 351,000 @ LG 4
next 806 enrolls - 180 * 806 * 3 = 435,240 @ LG 5.
And i have a million !!
So after 2306 enrolls i can hope to own a TGI ( if the prise is 1 million . I saw 2 TGI for sale in the market today , Cheaper one was for 1,300,000 )
So you see moro88 I will never have to worry about trying to ambush with min Ap art..
lol .. now i know how they felt when she said "why don't they eat cake?"
You try ambush.. indeed !! |
how long it would needed for achieve 2306 'my dear'?
Assume that you enroll 24 per day..You would need 97 days to get that sum of gold
now is the question: Does everyone enroll like you did?No?We are not troll that only know how to play games..we have RL
2nd: You still don't get it..let say you really own a TGI..and how about the costs of art that needed for ambush?are they free? With min art ap ambush you only have little chance to win
What do you say? 'my dear'? |
wow:08-18-09 13:25: Registered. Faction: Elf.
only 900+ enroll..You said achieve 2306 enroll just like a piece of cake..i knew it..you just know how to write here but actually.......... |
@moro88; why don't they eat cake?rather "Let them eat cake" is a phrase. Google it to understand what it means.
As for the question, "Will New LG Rule (if implemented) make any real difference?", you will definitely not be able to have multiple factions anymore. |
08-18-09 13:25: Registered. Faction: Elf.= about 400 days ago
Laborers' guild: 4 (971)
971/400 = 2 to 3 enrolls per day.
Assume that you enroll 24 per day..You would need 97 days to get that sum of gold
Please don't just talk |
Yes I believe it would. Your references to a lower demand leads to lower price rests on the foundations that demand will drop.
But why do you think? We will still need the weapons to fullfill min AP requirements.
What will actually drop is our buying power and our real life bank accounts (if we feel we are forced to buy gold . I'll quit before doing that though).
I know i can consider myself lucky. I've got a fair amount of gold, but it's rough that I seriusly can't recall an update making lifes easier for newcomers than for the people already in the game. I honestly think thats a big problem. |
| you will definitely not be able to have multiple factions anymore.agreed. |
Will New LG Rule (if implemented) make any REAL difference ?
OH yeah.
Also, everybody keeps assuming that Hunter/Thief art price will miraculously drop in accordance with such a change. It won't. Unless shop arts prices are revised as well, Hunter/MH/GH/Thief arts will stay more or less the same. Maybe even then, too.
To explain this further, let's take our CHEAPEST hunter art on the market at the moment - The Hunter Pendant. It's lowest value right now, is 499 Gold. It's REPAIR value is 400 Gold. Since most smiths ask for 110%, the real repair cost for most of us would be 440, or even 480 gold at 120% for those who do not belong to any clan. Exactly how much further do you think the market value can drop?
All right, you could argue that the price for OTHER hunter arts, like the Hunter Bow - which is priced at 1,800 Gold but has the same repair cost - will drop. But WHY is the bow so expensive? Because it's extremely difficult to get. A pendant, hat, shirt or boots (the cheapest ones) can be found by just about anybody before they hit Combat level 4 or 5. But stuff like the bow and glove can only be found rarely, and to those who hunt a lot. And for these mainstream hunters, a big part of affording AP for their hunts is by selling these arts at the market for good prices.
In short, no, the PRICES WILL NOT DROP. So yeah, this will make a *REAL* difference.
We're not a real economy. As Kotrin once put it, there is no "cycle" for our currency (gold) - and DOUBLY so than .ru because of our smaller community size. Hence why we periodically run out of gold at the mines, and the unstable nature of our market, and so on and so forth.
Bottom line: price drop is against human nature. Less gold from enrolling means people trying to make more gold from other sources like Market, which equals a VERY good chance that Hunter/Thief art prices will hit the roof.
Was that clear enough for you? |
i wouldnt be too devastated if it got implemented.
i would just leave |
| ya i agree with ghost face i would rather leave |
Arctic said:
"[...]
I have been summoned by our admins to do certain update work.
As before, it will be close to the current twin version on .ru, although not precisely same.[...]"
Especially the last bit saying NOT PRECISELY SAME xD
A little bit optimism please :) I believe he wont hurt us. |
how many hour you need to buy full art 10+lvl or build new castle.
now its to long, and if LG will refomed so many ppl will enroll and enroll. no fun, just push 6 button on hour. |
