| Author | Moderators represent the Admins |
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Hi everyone
It came to my attention that when you are a moderator
you should have the ability to address the admins. and so I wrote this topic titled moderators represent the admins.If you're a moderator this title probably captured your attention.
so have you tried writing the admins but failed to get a reply
Communication between moderators and admins is important to establish more clarity and I think that plays a big part of why some times moderators do things that we don't understand such as topics being closed off without much clarity etc.
my question for you(moderators)is have the Admins ever addressed you for your actions once anytime and are they even monitoring the moderators actions and keeping in touch to maintain the quality of the site?
because one moderator can ruin the admins reputation so I think it is important.
a moderators actions does not go by their head or by the way they feel. no one cares what a moderator feels or thinks. all that matters is what comes out on screen which is their actions.
yeah um please tell me what you think of my topic and I hope that all moderators that read this will not find it offensive in any way and find it kind of informative I guess.
the moderators are the admins
...reflection. |
| Disregarding the representation issue, mods don't have any special access to Admins compared to regular players. |
moderators are not admins.
moderators cant represent the admins.
sad to say that, even moderators cant contact admin much than you expect. |
no one cares what a moderator feels or thinks.
This makes them a sad sad panda. :-( Nobody loves you pang. |
Nobody loves you pang
who care? ;p |
Nobody loves you pang
i dont agree with you Omega22...
He is the best moderator of this forum :D:D |
He is the best moderator of this forum :D:D
flattery huh ?
Omega22 were you not a moderator? |
| +1 to Omega .. :) Hmm and yeahh .. I think .. mods must suggest to admins to have more access to them .. :) |
The moderators don't need the admins full attention. Arctic can generally tell us what's right and wrong, and the moderators do discuss their veiws on rules, bans, etc.
But of course, although moderators can ban, and do enforce the rules the administrators created, moderators do not fully represent the admins.
And Pang is right... Mods don't have any more contact with admins than regular players. |
| 7 Omega is sage not mod. |
| I don't know why the moderators should have better contacts with admins when they do nothing but they moderate a forum. There are few things one player should be aware of when it's about the game and forum. Consider the forum a kind of tavern (to be in the spirit of the game). People come here to discuss their problems. The moderators are not the sheriffs of the county, but just employees in the tavern to keep the drunk people in line. Outside the tavern they have no authority. Also, if a player gets out of line, they can only throw the drunkard out from the tavern. It's not against the county rules to get drunk in tavern, so, there is no penalty from the sheriffs whenever a person gets drunk in the tavern. As well as if a crock comes into tavern just for a fill. As long as the crock is behaving, the tavern bodyguards don't have anything to do with that person. So, why the tavern bodyguards should have better connection with the county sheriffs? |
So, why the tavern bodyguards should have better connection with the county sheriffs?
Maybe because some guys bring knives into bars and start fights, thats where bodyguards are first to get involved and have to call the sheriff.:-) |
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What kind of bodyguard are you if you cannot manage a guy with a knife? :) Are moderators some kids to ask for their mothers' help? No. They have all the methods and means to deal with knives and guns. Throwing the bad guys out of the tavern and keeping them out of it doesn't require the sheriffs intervention. :P |
So, why the tavern bodyguards should have better connection with the county sheriffs
well, consider sheriffs in LWM were those half-admin like Arctic. we do have better contact in case we need them, especially some cross-guilt found when i doing keeper job. i have to redirect to them.
admin is more like... a king? land lord? or just something similar :) |
Moderators, sages and keepers are three distinct jobs. Think the tavern with two offices above it. One office is belonging to sages and one to keepers. Of course the keepers are to have good connections with the admins, but they are just clerks as well. The moderators have to keep order in the whole building, but nothing else.
Arctic, the half-admin (as you call him), can be the land sheriff, while the full admins are called in the Empire stories "the twin gods". Don't forget we have an Empress. :D |
Personally, I have never had trouble reaching Arctic, cepruyc, or dArtagnan when I needed to. As for Alexander and Maxim, I have never tried to contact them as I have never felt it necessary.
The moderator activities are watched by at least Arctic. He knows how active or inactive they are and mods have been fired before. However, once properly trained, mods should require very little supervision by admins, the job just isn't that complex or difficult. If a mod needs a lot of supervision from admins, they probably aren't well suited for the job.
Finally, there is a private mod forum where mods can discuss questions or concerns amomg themselves and with the more senior mods, like pang to get answers to questions. In 99% of cases this is sufficient for them to do their jobs. |
Of course the keepers are to have good connections with the admins, but they are just clerks as well.
good, keeper? i m keeper but i cant contact admin much more than you expect too :) |
I don't expect anything. :) Clerks can ask the sheriff to speak with Empress to forward your requests to the Gods if you really need them. Otherwise, leave a note on the castle gates like "this castle belongs to an outlaw" which it's in your power to do (I am speaking about the penalties you can apply). ;) The Gods will decide to set the castle on flames or to leave it alone.
Even as keepers, you have enough power to do your job. But you cannot and shouldn't be able influence our Gods from here.
Anyway, this thread is about moderators and we are getting too far from the main subject.
Just to conclude, I don't see why moderators should have privileges in contacting the admins. The moderators are just simple players like every other player when it comes to the game rules. They just have power over enforcing the forum rules and nothing else. For that they don't need admins. |
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nah, i m just want to explain that even keeper is nothing difference more than a mod but just with extra power :\ |
:)
I think what players see in the modertor/sage/keeper position is different from what is in reality. From my point of view, all the three positions are just jobs with given means to do those jobs. Nothing else. Once you are in a certain position, it means you accumulated enough knowledge to do that job and you don't need admins to pampers you. Of course, errare humanum est, so, the simple players (players with no position in the official clans) should be more understanding in that and to help in creating a good communication in between the officials and normal players. Admins have nothing to do, but to choose the correct persons and to interfere whenever their emloyees are not doing their jobs correctly. |
