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| so im trying to lower the caven strength, but now i used like a month doing thief losses or so and doing like 6-8 a day,,, and its getting weeker relly slow :) so how far will i have to go :)
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| That answer depends entirely on how much weaker you want them to be. | 
| The reduction is small, you can see real difference in long term. And if you used full arts being able to win in min AP will be long... | 
| For example I went from enchanted arts with high faction lvl to min arts with low faction lvl.  In order to maintain the same low win rate I had to lose almost 3000 caravans over the course of almost 2 years.  This is obviously a huge decrease in caravan difficulty, so of course I had to lose that many. 
 Other factors that increased caravan difficulty:
 I also gained 3 combat lvls during this time.
 There were at least 1 major AI update.
 Alt upgrades were added.
 Tier 7 were added.
 Changes to dynamic balancing.
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| for Doomweed: Each loss reduces the caravan strength by about 2%, and only THAT caravan. Not all caravans, not caravans of that faction, only the caravan of that army make-up.
 
 That means if you lose against a DE caravan of Lizard riders + Hydras, that reduces the next Lizard riders + Hydras caravan by 2%, but does not affect the Mino+Shrew caravans or the Shrew + Lizard riders or the other DE caravans.
 
 So it'll take a long while to see much effect
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| WEll for every ambush you lose it is estimated that the caravan loses 3% of its troops.. you do the math;) | 
| Just to help a stupid guy. How much does the strengh increase if you win a fight? | 
| for Arghmage: 5-7%
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| Just to help a stupid guy. Better to ask a stupid question than to give a stupid answer!
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| So roughly you need to lose 3 of 4 fights and you will never have problems with your fights getting to hard. :) | 
| when I started with min AP I lost ALL battles, now I done it for some time (gained more than 200 FSP during the time) and now I started to win some caravans except knights. So still I`m doing it. 
 My goal is to win average one of 10 battles to reset the working penalty.
 
 By the way I use SOM and amulet, I found the best min arts to gain also more FSP if I loose (and the cost is not so big).
 
 Good luck!
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