| Author | The Mystery Of The Magic Punch | 
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| Hiya all, 
 While waiting to recover, I was browsing through some of my battles and noticed something I can't understand.
 
 
 In this battle, https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=499107078<=-1
 
 15 Magi dealt 104 damage,
 
 but in this battle, https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=499109164<=-1
 
 15 Lores dealt 132 damage
 
 
 2. My question have reference to this thread, Erlemar's post #2 - https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1839689
 
 In this battle, https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=499169425<=-1
 
 9 Lores dealt 93 damage, different from the 89 damage Erlemar posted in that thread.
 
 
 So my questions,
 
 - Does Lores and Magi deals different damage, ie, have different Magic Punch 'powers'?
 
 - Is Magic Punch affected by stuff such as magic level, faction level etc?
 
 - Has there been an update in the 'formula' for Magic Punch since that post by Erlemar? I don't recalled reading anything about it in any updates.
 
 - What is the formula for Magic Punch? How do we calculate the damage of Magi/Lores stacks?
 
 Thanks.
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| 1. I'm not positive but it could be like magi are a for example at magic guild lvl 3 and lores are at lvl 4 so they do more damage. 
 2. Magic punch is affected by faction resistance, magic resistance, etc...
 
 3. And I don't know anything about formulas hehe :)
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| https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=32 : # Magi: Magic punch. 20 damage. Physical damage, Nature Magic school. Costs 5 mana.
 # Lorekeepers: Magic punch. 25 damage. Physical damage, Nature Magic school. Costs 5 mana.
 
 dunno about your others questions
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| i havent look on the replay log. 
 but, magic punch dmg can be resist by faction skill resistance
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| So.. why is there a formula for almost everything else in the game, but not one (that I know of) for how many damage Magi/Lores Magic Punch does, depending on how many stacks there are, especially since it's not linear? | 
| magic punch can only be resisted by faction level .. not by magic shield or magic resistance .. :) | 
| magic punch is resisted by defense skill | 
| here is a list of lore damages, i let you find the math formulla : 1 lore = 25
 2 lores = 40
 3 lores = 53
 4 lores = 64
 5 lores = 75
 6 lores = 85
 7 lores = 95
 9 lores = 113
 13 lores = 146
 14 lores = 153
 17 lores = 175
 19 lores = 190
 good luck
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| here is a list of lore damages, i let you find the math formulla : 1 lore = 25
 2 lores = 40
 3 lores = 53
 4 lores = 64
 5 lores = 75
 6 lores = 85
 7 lores = 95
 9 lores = 113
 13 lores = 146
 14 lores = 153
 17 lores = 175
 19 lores = 190
 
 Hiya buddy,
 
 Where did you get this? Is this reliable/correct? It seems to differs from those found here - https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1839689
 
 And why are there 'holes' in the list? What happened to 8, 10-12, 15-16 and 18? :p
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| for Jedi-Knight: 
 taken from .ru
 
 Archmagi
 
 dmg=1+24*[N^0.7]
 
 Magi
 
 dmg=1+19*[N^0.7],
 
 where N is number of creatures.
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| lol 
 Archmagi
 
 *Lorekeepers
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| What about your battles, don't forget about your Wizard antiskill 
 FS 6 = 18% damage reduction
 
 for example, https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=499109164<=-1
 
 dmg=(1+24*[15^0.7])*0.82 = 132.
 
 Check it yourself! )))
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| according to formula: 
 1	25
 2	40
 3	53
 4	64
 5	75
 6	85
 7	95
 8	104
 9	113
 10	121
 11	130
 12	138
 13	146
 14	153
 15	161
 16	168
 17	175
 18	183
 19	190
 
 according that number, lore/magi better splitted to many stacks if want do magic punch.
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| Hmm.. interesting. 
 So ^ is .. 'to the power of'?
 
 @ Post #13,
 
 Is that for Magi or Lores? Or are they the same?
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| #14 i took this from my personnal hunts and MG with different set of Lores (ROFL) 
 Thanks togort for the formulla.
 
 Pat.
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| Yes, ^ is .. 'to the power of' 
 Post #13 is for Lores
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| Yeah,the forumula is nice.I will try it. | 
| Is that for Magi or Lores? Or are they the same? 
 that is for lore.
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| Well erm...1 magi did 17 dmg and 1 lore did 21 dmg with magic punch... dunno what that is supposed to mean! 
 (Rest don't conform to above pattern(s) either)
 
 https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=31193798
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| Now that's weird ... what arts did you have in that hunt ? |