| Author | Erudution vs. Offense talents compare |
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Sample:
I have 50 shrews (basic attack parameter of my hero is 28)
Which gives more damage?
Talents:
1.Expert offense + Cold blade + Battle fury + Retribution
(count with morale +4)
OR
2.Expert erudition(+7 attack) + Advanced offense + Battle Fury
How to calculate possible damage factor?
Additional question: How influences usage of enchanted weapons (sample 4x10%) sword the above case? |
tried this?
http://www.scoalanr11.org/damage/ |
| for RicHunter: Offense talent is better .. erudition to use for mana .. :) |
also depends how much defence the enemy has.
If you want, i can give you exact numbers and turning point later today |
tried this?
http://www.scoalanr11.org/damage/
Thanks, however calculator gives only partially the answer:
- 1534 dmg to 1584 dmg using expert offense vs. advanced +7 attack
But since "cold blade and retribution" give extra bonus it is clear to see which way gives more damage! |
| well, we need to know the attack and defence to math exactly... |
+ Retribution
With only 1 morale?
That is only 5% extra damage, i think its better to take 1 luck or 1 morale extra, not? |
also depends how much defence the enemy has.
True, but I believe that the first set of talents will still be better no matter what (A-D) is.
Minus the exceptions of immune to water, zero or negative morale, that sort of thing. |
| +7 Attack won't give you +30% to Melee damage. And since DE is a 90% Melee-troops faction, Offense serves you better. |
| for Hallion91: nice agree ^^ |
I just made the file in excel and send it to richunter,
but as i expected, it does depend on the defence,
Though this is talent set will be used for hunting / merc quests and other easy things where the defence is low, set A is always better :) |
@9
That was the best answer . . . Seriously. Ill make it a point to use on my alt. |
I just made the file in excel and send it to richunter
Thx a lot we can say "Expert offense + Cold blade + Battle fury + Retribution" gives clearly more damage.
Second question was how does enchant modify damage?
Sample: 4x10% enchant and expert offense
basic damage * 1.3 * 1.1 * 1.1 *1.1 *1.1
OR
basic damage * 1.3 * 1.4
OR
basic damage * 1.7 |
If sample: expert offense and 4x10% enchant
Basic damage * 1.3 * 1.4
But if sample = expert offense and 4x10% enchant and cold blade
I'm not sure if it is
1) Basic damage * 1.3 * 1.4 * 1.1
Or
2) Basic damage * 1.3 * 1.5
Or even
3) Basic damage * 1.3 * 1.49 (since 10% + 10% water gives 19%) |
3) Basic damage * 1.3 * 1.49 (since 10% + 10% water gives 19%)
I would go for that one. For sure, 10% water and 10% water are calculated as 1 - (0.9 * 0.9), ie 19% |
(2-(1-0.x1)*(1-0.x2)*(1-0.x3))*(2-(1-0.y1)*(1-0.y2)*(1-0.y3))*[other modifiers]
where x1, x2, x3 is for example fire enchantment on sword / dagger / bow
and y1, y2, y3 is for example water enchantment on sword / dagger / bow |
@16
I'm pretty sure your formula is wrong. |
