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AuthorWhy is thieving so hard?
I mean, I saw a lvl 7 having no problems with them, he did like 125 thiefs in less then 1 week.. Thought oh fun, maybe I should get it to..

I'm lvl 10 knight, keep losing, fight after fight? Now I really feel like 'Waste of money'..

People keep telling me a knight is like the weakest faction in thieving 'cause they are soooo slow.. They adviced me to chance faction. I do not have the money to change faction, so did i waste my money on thieving guild? Isn't there any way they can make thieving a little more fun even for the slow factions? Man.. When my guardians arrive at the battle, all my other troops are already dead..

Any advice?
& Yeah I'm a noob at thieving things so please don't try to reply to hard on me! I love this game, thought thief was fun, well it sucks ;P
Kind regards.
after the grand update, the ambush map kill knight hard...

but IMO, lv10 is the best level for knight in thieving, especially with holy built :)

after lv10, it is a downhill for knight in thieving :s
Any advice?

Just do ambushes. If you win, good job, if you lose, next time you'll have more chances.
What do you mean with Holy built? ;o
Seems to me its just so unfair.. So at lvl 11 - 15 it will be even harder for knight to thief? :(

If you look at this, the best time to get thief is then at lvl 6 - 7, cause dang at that lvl they win everything.. seems so unfair..
1.wear less,
2.keep losing,

after some weeks you will feel better
It is dynamically balanced.

So when you win they will get harder, when you lose they will get easier.

In the long run your win ratio will be the same no matter what faction and build you are or how well you play. It is only a matter of how many ambush you do since the win ratio is fixed.
every time you win, caravan will be 5% harder next time. every time you lose, it will become 2% easier.
when you level up(combat level) caravans become about 20% harder. so just keep losing and they will become easier
well, in term of streak wins, lv10 knight with holy built is easier.... but that will increase the caravans difficulty in no time :)
Check top 100's win / loss ratios. Why many top players have thousands of losses ? Just because using (mostly) minimum AP when setting ambushes and losing in order to decrease caravan strenght. Rougly 3 losses from SAME caravan type equals 1 win later.
What do you mean with Holy built? ;o

You can use holy magic talents from the talent wheel.

Thieving has always been hard in terms of the win/loss ratio. But because of your level and the fact that you are not in a clan, you should be able to ambush more players, rather than caravans.

This may (or may not) be a good thing. :)
for holy built, try expdet holy and domination of wrath+renunciation
can anyone tell me how to get into thieve guide !!! without paying original money thanxx
For zazi123

1. Save around 400,000 gold in game money.
2. Get to combat level 6
3. Wait for merge with ru. server.
4. Buy one on the market for under 400k.
1. Save around 400,000 gold in game money.
2. Get to combat level 6
3. Wait for merge with ru. server.
4. Buy one on the market for under 400k.


I think that's just wishful thinking. I think the admins will address the TG invitation price difference between .com and .ru before doing the merge. If we are going to merge. Besides, the influx of gold (I heard they have horrible LG there) from .com may inflate the price of everything over there when that happens. Not to mention the .ru sellers may raise the prices to gain profit and .com sellers will try to sell as high as possible to cut down their gold loss with the merge. I'd say get around 800k gold to be on the safe side...
switch your build to advanced laedership+rally+fervor+escort.

never use escort as it pushes hero back on ATB( less uses of ability fervor)
and use fervor every hero turn to get more turns with troops and get your gaurdians to enemies faster :)
Just persevere, you will start to have success soon enough. It's similar to trying to find a girlfriend - every "no" is one closer to the next "YES"!! Every loss is one closer to the next WIN!! :)
Current TGI price on .ru is ~560k gold so it's highly unlikely that you will be able to buy one for under 400k.
I'm really curious. Are there any high/full AP thieves out there?

https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4653755

I've been doing minimum AP and I'm getting anywhere between 0.46 to 0.06 FSP per loss. the skill point you get is depend on how many enemy you kill, not your ap.
the skill point you get is depend on how many enemy you kill, not your ap.

Way back in the new year event, I remember getting 0.50 or so FSP wearing full arts and losing to the new year monsters trying to set a record. I was thinking that maybe AP has an effect on FSP gained when losing to AI. I could be wrong though. Maybe it was just a temporary thing. Maybe it only works in hunts on holidays (there was a 20% FSP bonus). Who knows...

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=501556659
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