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for ZALL:
They gave us two alt upgrades instead of one to be frank. One might and one magic. New original creatures. Connected them to Tribal Spirit with an excellent storyline. Two standalone talents. What else do you want to be created?
Appreciate their earnest efforts guys. |
Admin ran out of creativity,barb stealing the exclusive faction ability of steppe,what a disappointment
tribal troops status(hp,attack,def,damage and speed) are weak with out tribal sprite, but this alt barb troop status are much better even with out tribal sprite. Poor tribal lords they are now jealous about there new cousins :) |
Nice updates. Though I hope that the recruitment count in the tournament is not the same as it will be for players. The fury barb is just the ultimate killing machine. Boarriders are unstoppable without spirit already, spirit gives them 8 speed and stun, as if they need it :D.
Well, I don't mind getting 5.6 fsp for a battle without arts though :D |
| What are the updates? |
Admin ran out of creativity,barb stealing the exclusive faction ability of steppe,what a disappointment
the admins didn't have HOMM to create troops from so why not just appreciate them for the new armies we get:D |
Seriously? You guys need to start appreciating the admins for once instead of whining. This is one of the best updates I've seen in a very long long time.
Two additional classes of the same faction!? This means there would be at least two additional classes for each faction as mentioned in I&S.
Cant wait to face some alt classes of bsrb in PvP (though they may need some balancing). Not to mention, the insight is a good way to earn some anti fsp as well. |
| The new might barbarian main talent is op. The tribal's main talent is totally useless if you compare the two. |
Seriously? You guys need to start appreciating the admins for once instead of whining.
I agree |
ya seriously... stop acting like big babies... i remember a time when we were on a certain server where we got no updates. Now they give us 2 alt factions at the same time right after a holloween event? and you are still complaining? If you dont like it stop playing this game. It would greatly enhance the experience for the rest of us if you did.
god.. some people just need to learn to grow up and appreciate new things added to this game.
btw thank you admins for updates, i believe we will have new ST champs with fury barbs. time for tribals to stand aside and let thier dominant cousins have the throne :) |
time for tribals to stand aside and let thier dominant cousins have the throne :)
no! we won't! lol but true, the new fury barb looks awesome, at least this is true in PVE. |
Well i'm just saying that boar riders die easily and how they perform in ST does not tell much about their competitiveness against other factions in PvP... i mean one would call tribals overpowered too, if it was to be decided like this :)
Anyway i felt fury barb would be a one man army- since the orcs have even lower initiative than normal ones and goblin shooters are very easy to kill, i mean 290-300 die quite fast.. :)
BTW who didnt think DD is overpowered? i have barely seen people winning against alt class of both Demon and knight.. and Dwarf itself is such a pain, its alt class is gonna be cruel :D |
Totally agreed to Vitrea.
The damage dampening of Alt Barbs is less than half of that of Tribals. So I guess that evens out most of the things. |
It's time for dark demons to leave their ''Overpowered Throne'' , It's time for Shadow barbabrian to sit on it :)
From this I notice that-
Tribals gonna be jealous of Fury barbarian
Dark demons gonna be jealous of Shadow barbarian :P |
| I dont see how dark demons need to be jealous of any other faction.. we dont even know how much the darkness talents cost for this barb and we Only know that shadow barb doesnt have as effective spell as the former. |
after this group of events ,
i dont think there will be any event soon ...
but still waiting the rest of altes |
for ayush20:
Tribals vs Fury Barb...
Fury Barbs lack Delay or Rapid Spells. Pure might. A Delayed Boar can be hit twice with a Warlord. orcs have even lower initiative than normal ones and goblin shooters are very easy to kill, i mean 290-300 die quite fast.
I don't think Tribals need to worry. Especially Defense Tribal. It will be an even match up.
Dark Demon vs Shadow Barb
I guess Curse on Fiends by Warlocks can do some serious trouble. DD relies 100% on Hero for cast, Shadow barb on Hero as well as 4 out of 7 units that cast. :P So maybe DD in trouble here. But shadow barb lacks Health. Complete Reliance on Ogre Magi and Dark Rocs for Unit Damage dealing. While DD has super fast Searing Horses, Fiends and at higher levels Abyss Demons which are a serious trouble for Boars. :P
I guess both are a balanced class, won't be OP. |
Normal Tribals-
Dampened damage equals [50% + faction skill level * 2%].
Barb tribals-
dampens damage taken by 20%+[faction skill level]*1%
barb tribals can dampen damage only almost half as much as normal tribals. Playing insight tourney, i feel the barbs are more meant to collect tribal spirits and rise to higher levels rather than lose it to save HP. While a normal Tribal troops getting level 2 spirit level means end for the enemy, I think the barbs are meant to rise to that level( atleast remain in level 1 for most of the battle). And they are too much overpowered if they get the same recruit count they are having now in insight tourney. |
| that they dampen less damage, means they can stay more easily at a higher tribal level right ? |
for Sven91:
But that also means they will have less number of creatures left by the time they reach Level 2 or Level 3.
It's a compensating attribute I feel. Either cases, the tribal level bonuses of the creatures are not that impacting.
e.g. Boar Riders... +1 Speed +3 Attack and Stun? Compare it to Enforcers...
+2 Speed +5 Health +3 Min Max Damage and Stun.
Tribal Level 3 Heavily improves Tribal Creatures, hence they need to lose Tribal Spirit asap or they become OP. While Tribal level 3 has minimal impact on Barb Alt creatures, hence they staying at level 3 doesn't create much of a difference. |
| for tournament do we need our primal stats (atta/defense, knowledge)? |
