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Actually this thread is a giant rule breaking, including everyone who posted here, including me and mods itself. This is not the exactly place to debate and explainning stuff, following the rules...
Dude we are not breaking rules, we are discussing this is the thing which we actually do in the forum but we are not actually doin it as we ar afraid of MoDs... and am asking you to stop being afraid of them and look at them as our equal and I am also asking them to look us as our equal, whats wrong in this ? A game forum should contain both positive and negative comments but we are afraid to post anything negative Why ? | Seriously ?
Any ban in this thread won even then lead a problem to them
Every moderator is at least this much clever -_- | Okay, so this rule makes quite a tough situation. There are two types of thinking that come into play (as far as I'm concerned).
You need to set a limit, I'm sure everyone agrees to this. You can't have 100 exclamation marks, it just gets ridiculous. We have chosen to draw the line at three.
"So why do I get banned for posting four dots by mistake?". Because the limit is three. Three is the limit, and four is too many. This sounds ridiculous because, as you say, it could have been an honest mistake. But here is the issue.
That rules of three dots is being ignored, and essentially changes to an unwritten four. You could never ban somebody for using four, because then they use the argument of "You didn't ban this person when they used four, you're playing favourites!".
Sometimes using discretion (for example, a public discussion on moderator actions being permitted in I&S) is fine. We can say it's a one off, it was required, and nobody is hurt by it.
Sometimes, using discretion isn't a good idea, because it opens up arguments of favoritism and hypocritical behavior. Some issues have to be viewed in black and white circumstances. Besides, the consequences aren't something that will ruin your entire experience. Not being able to comment on the forum for an hour or so won't have a major impact and it ensures people are getting fair treatment. | and am asking you to stop being afraid of them and look at them as our equal and I am also asking them to look us as our equa
I mean I am asking you to stop being afraid of them and look at them equal and I am also asking them to look at us as there equal and treat us with some respect becoz if i talk against them they just add to black list and avoid us ... | There is no sense just flooding the game administration gonna do nothing
And I should me more specific that its not just about moderators the main topic is about the game
Like I said are the ideas and suggestions Implemented anywhere ?
Like this topic we are just talking It would never be implemented
In the records since long it has never been..
I gave one example of the idea and response from any admin
at least admin can come to ideas and suggestion once a month and look who got most posts and if it has +1 they can think..
Its just useless
no response from them in technical forums as same !! | Dude we are not breaking rules, we are discussing this is the thing which we actually do in the forum but we are not actually doin it as we ar afraid of MoDs... and am asking you to stop being afraid of them and look at them as our equal and I am also asking them to look us as our equal, whats wrong in this ? A game forum should contain both positive and negative comments but we are afraid to post anything negative Why ?
I'm not afraid mein freud, but your arguments aren't consistent and the essence of this threat, lays on a single person which wants to be above of the law and rules itself. Without rules all that left is chaotic anarchy, people doing whatever they want or please, like cheating, starting 'wars' with each other, insulting, favorism friends or himself (exactly like you're trying to do), and so on.
So basically your proposal, doesn't contain any relevant information nor is giving any solution to the problem, actually you're just whinning without any right, and if I'm a moderator, I would've banned you and locked this thread long time ago.
I've broken with moderators before, mainly with CBS which become one of my favourite keepers. Basically I was posting on wrong format, when reporting a player violating the rules, and only because of that, the cheater was getting unpunished freely. Though this same person was the responsable for recruting and trainning new moderators, he did make some events with his own wealth and overall contribute a lot to make old .com stable and alive.
So please, you're not trying to solve anything, if you're you would contact the mod, and responsables to due area, instead you're only wanting to claim attention to yourself. You want power to do as you please and take advantage of it, impunity.
Seriously ?
Any ban in this thread won even then lead a problem to them
Every moderator is at least this much clever -_-
Let's talk about "cleverness," nobody complain about how 'unfair' a ban was, by explicitly breaking another rule. This person is indeed looking for a new ban. | Can we really for once leave the topic about moderators - for temporary and look of my post #45
Because if it went like this soon it will look a thread about moderators
and soon it will be locked | With all due respect Optimus, I don't agree with you (in relation to I&S not being listened to).
A lot of idea's implemented over the past 7+ years have come from the community, and there are more in the upcoming features section. Again, the departure of Arctic has been a large setback when it comes to the English speaking side of the forums, but ideas are collected by other staff members.
Also keep in mind that the Russian side is far larger, saying 10x larger isn't even coming close. They also have an I&S area, among others. They can't be expected to personally reply to every topic, and even if they did, I'm not too sure what you'd like them to say. Something along the lines of "We are taking this into consideration" probably wouldn't change much.
All I can say is, if you have an idea, put it in I&S (as long as it isn't mentioned in the sticky notes). Put it in proper English to make it easier for them to translate, and put lots of details to make it more attractive.
On the topic of a faction vs faction tournament, that has it's own issues. I don't think you should expect it until all the factions have their alternate form and it has been balanced properly over the course of a few months at least. | | There are inactive people in the clan easily one can see | if you're you would contact the mod, and responsables to due area, instead you're only wanting to claim attention to yourself. You want power to do as you please and take advantage of it, impunity
Dude u think I opened the forum to get attention on myself ? what benefit am I goin to get by sharing these thing I say what I feel ... And am not goin to get all i am goin to get in Ban in Forum ... May be also permanent Ban in forum or even block I am playing this game for almost 8years why would i wish for such a thing am just talking for the welfare of the Game ...
you're not trying to solve anything, if you're you would contact the mod, and responsables to due area
already hve tried this and have got blocked :P thats why I came here :P so that they may know I am not the only one Accusing :P | On the topic of a faction vs faction tournament, that has it's own issues. I don't think you should expect it until all the factions have their alternate form and it has been balanced properly over the course of a few months at least.
Maybe they could present it like this
at least one of them could post in at least one post once a month ?
does I ask more ?
There are inactive people in the clan easily one can see
Forum Moderators | There are inactive people in the clan easily one can see
Are you suggesting the team is currently understaffed? | Are you suggesting the team is currently understaffed?
I do not blame anyone because I do not know about working of your clan and management
I am just asking a simple question
Does the clan has some necessary rules on players
Like inactive for xx days and kicked from clan ? | if you're you would contact the mod, and responsables to due area, instead you're only wanting to claim attention to yourself. You want power to do as you please and take advantage of it, impunity
Dude u think I opened the forum to get attention on myself ? what benefit am I goin to get by sharing these thing I say what I feel ... And am not goin to get all i am goin to get in Ban in Forum ... May be also permanent Ban in forum or even block I am playing this game for almost 8years why would i wish for such a thing am just talking for the welfare of the Game ...
you're not trying to solve anything, if you're you would contact the mod, and responsables to due area
already hve tried this and have got blocked :P thats why I came here :P so that they may know I am not the only one Accusing :P
First off, I'm not a moderator, so it's not on my power to judge or decide the weight of punishements
But in my opinion you could easily take 24 - 48h forum ban, and everyone else a forum ban as well.
* You didn't bring proof to your case.
* You aren't suggesting something, you're arguing, and 'want/must' be right of it.
* You're generalizing every moderator as bad.
* You didn't bring any solution for this subject.
So you're saying you been blocked by every single moderator? Then there's something very wrong in here, a issue big as this, will not pass unnoticeable, I myself have contacted mods before, and they always talk very politely. The thing is, you want to be right, when you're not. I do not blame anybody who e-mail block you, you kind deserve it, basing from this thread. | Officially speaking, no.
But, like all things that have come up in this topic, it is a bit more complicated than that.
If someone is simply under performing. They're not making good decisions, are directly hurting the community, or there is a huge amount of complaints to relevant members of the team, something will be done about them. Depending on the severity they might be warned, they might go back into a trial/training period, or in severe circumstances they will be ejected (although that's not something we want to do).
A member can also apply for extended leave. For example, if they are moving houses, have university test coming up, are going on a holiday etc. That normally isn't an issue.
We also don't normally kick inactive mods in most cases. Depends on the person of course, but some moderators have proven themselves more than capable and endlessly trustworthy. Generally, we have alternate ways of contacting each other (not just through Lordswm), and that includes those who are inactive.
And having inactive people there doesn't hurt us all that much, it's not like we have a member limit. | * You didn't bring proof to your case.
We are not talking about a concerned case here we are talkin about wats goin around us ...
You aren't suggesting something, you're arguing, and 'want/must' be right of it.
I suggest Voting, and am right I guess, But I dont Say that is only right I also ask ur suggestion
* You're generalizing every moderator as bad.
Maybe except a few Ex: E_e is really nice
* You didn't bring any solution for this subject.
I am asking u for a solution, If u got plz share with us ... I am not that brave to find a solution, U are really brave | Fine my question is just remains lied in any response in Technical Problems Never ?
And Can't there be anyone appointed to do works as Arctic | for Angel of Death:
Thanks for saying that, as it further brings forward the point of "it's dangerous to use discretion".
Although you are correct, this topic could have been instantly closed and forced under the surface, this time it is allowed (for now).
Let's just make sure everyone keeps it civil, we aren't here to start fights or threaten anyone. | Arctic's don't just grow on trees. Think of him as the creator of this server. He met the administrators in real life to make this happen, and he was exceptional in his knowledge of Russian, English and Computer language. We can't just "get a new Arctic" right now, because nobody at the moment can.
In regards to technical issues, I can't really give a solution. Perhaps post it in Russian on their forum, as moderators there is only so much that can be done.
This situation isn't ideal for anyone, players, moderators or the administrators. We can give limited tech support, but we can't access the code to fix your issues. | After looking through the technical section of the forum, I think the moderators in charge of that section are doing a good job considering the situation.
Do you have any solutions to the issue? This is your chance to be heard, but we can't just hire a new Arctic. |
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.
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