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AuthorDiamonds are good but?....
I don wanna be mad at anywun@ least likely the unborn@ they are sum scary mofos I tell u that@@

Surfs up@ let's toast to that!
HOW MANY CL 8's that JUST turned CL 8 have over 40 fights in MG?

Don't know for sure, but there are definitely people in CL 6 who achieved MG2. It is good that you are starting to do MGs more.

what is the average MG development, OR FLS development of CL 7's? Are most at least level 3?

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The above photos are from this account, back when little Varg is just a little pup.. At a low level, it is much easier and cheaper to farm fsp for other factions. As you can see, my MG development is super terrible (still terrible now, btw because I hate waiting for new quests).

Which is in fact the highest you can in most probable cases GET TO...before CL 9?

Personally, I had FSL6 in my main faction and FSL3 in all other factions when I reached level 9. Of course there are differences between us. I started using diamonds at CL9 and I never played without ABC since level 2 I believe so I have much more bonus FSP.

In the best case scenario you would want FSL8 in your main faction and FSL2-3 in all other factions.
HG should be at least 5 (which you have).
LG should get around 4 to 5 (doesn't matter since no extra stats are given when you reach LG5).
MG should definitely be level 2.
As elf, I think that TG is especially important as well so if you can get some levels in it that will be good. Not asking you to buy diamonds (you shouldn't do it if you don't have your own income)
WG is quite a costly guild to build. Getting 1 or 2 levels in it will probably give you an advantage but I won't really recommend that you do them now and instead focus on other guilds. For me, I have WG5 so that gives me 5 more primary attributes

But not to mention in CL9 there will be a lot of people with DU so yeah.. it can be hard to win those players
You can use this website to check the statistics of characters. Just filter the fields to see your own combat level

http://www.guildofheroes.ru/players.php?lang=eng
You are very cute cyberclops!

Don't let anyone tell you different! I'm ugly though so I was just being vindictive and jealous! blah! : )

Hey, i'm saving up for that TG because OBVIOUSLY everybody who's "IN" is a Thieves guild member :)

@Cyber
Yo, check "Malvacious" and "Nefeiro," both are accounts from a "very long time ago when I was young" lol...

2010 to be exact, when I found this game, it was smashing. Though I couldn't continue for exacerbating reasons pbbsst. I need to make more thieves guild accounts lol!

But seriously though, I wish everybody did hunts with just min OA, maybe a luck charm for good luck but that's it. Well...maybe hunter sets but, buying them to win them is another thing than EARNING them. Is all i'm saying right?
actually when you progress you will find it rather hard to meet challenging hunts or to further a hunt so much so that it reaches challenging difficulty...
even at my lv and hg 99% of the hunts i get are white hunts
rest are green...
regretfully there isnt any achievment to be won with min ap but perhaps you can try wg with the min ap requirement and try to hit 3 stars with it...
it does giv a sense of accomplishment at least to me but nobody else knows it though...xp
I believe the skill of the game is degraded somehow...but how could you resolve this? Beats, me. I just feel as an actual record holder of a best hunt result that didn't use Diamonds to do it that the actual integrity of how good you are is undermined by the countless hordes of people who ironically help the game out, but at the same time destroy the competitiveness of the whole spirit.

I'm sure that there are plenty of players that achieved hunt records without the use of diamonds. Diamond upgrades are certainly advantageous, especially at lower levels, but being able to afford GH sets doesn't really depend on diamond purchases.

At any point in the game to be competitive you are going to have to grind a few things. To be competitive in hunts, you may have to sacrifice your anti-faction resistances at certain levels of the game. It's a give and take situation. Do you focus on one area at the expense of another or do you strive to achieve a better all round game where you maximise the better skills and focus less on the ones that don't matter as much.

Given situation being the implantation of having just 3-4 more Unicorns at level 8. At least to make the number a perfect "10" instead of a 8. BIG DEAL. Get at me.

The admins have attempted to balance the game according to PvP play - Not so much PvE. If you are advocating an arbitrary increase of 2 unicorns so that you may have a 'round' number you upset the balance that the administration have sought to achieve. If you are unhappy about the style of play you are achieving with one faction, consider changing to one that you are satisfied with.

I can agree that diamonds can distort some of the PvP elements when players have diamond upgrades, especially at lower levels. As your level increases the distortion becomes a little less because players have had their opportunities to focus and grind the guilds that might give them an edge.
HOW MANY CL 8's that JUST turned CL 8 have over 40 fights in MG?

Don't know for sure, but there are definitely people in CL 6 who achieved MG2. It is good that you are starting to do MGs more.



Not many, but yes I have seen them so yes you are right!

A little pup awww! I have lvl 7 HG guild at CL 8 boom bodabing most than others, it's like you can't get the 'same' HG level as your own personal level but so what! unless you really go super cyborg no pvp only pve right?

I understand right?

I hate waiting for new quests too, such a drag queen affair, but worth the salt right? If only someone would send me that little personal invite saying you can be the personal badace assassin that you know are then things would be so much greener and meaner right? What am I saying I am only CL 8 right? I am out of my league! :)

I intend to use diamonds very, very soon, as I know that just com'on, it's who ya know, not what you know right? )
Dwarves have double strike and a whole host of extra abilities...at least at CL 8 is what I am saying...

Necromancers have resurrect...'constantly' with a smart avg. player

Commanders have double strike, Centaurs are arguably high #'s

Shrews have no retaliate and SUPER high int%

Knights have 100+ archers AND Monks, at least at CL 8 is what i'm saying

Demons have tailgate, 'more NFL fans'

AND return fire succubi for that matter...

Wizards...com'on....genies are super homosexual lol

I just felt that having "3" or more unicorns for elves to make 11 or 10 would have been HUGELY beneficial then having 30+ U-BEARS with double strike crusade SMASH a 8 tier count Unicorn stack COMPLETELY would have evened the odds out more, as counting that besides the absolution of those frontiers that at least 80+ master spearmean SPEARING your bowmen to shreds, AND 25+ Beserkers each 20+ hp or more with crusade double hit, agility walk up RIGHT UP to your main defense and curtail it...


Would have been kinda...GOOD maybe...lol. nvm smh it doesn't matter i love this game and no matter what instances i have to deal with with my main fav faction i will go the distance whatever what. And i am totally cool with everyone who has to say something about it.

Peace you allllll....life ISSSSS goooood@!
I'm sure that there are plenty of players that achieved hunt records without the use of diamonds. Diamond upgrades are certainly advantageous, especially at lower levels, but being able to afford GH sets doesn't really depend on diamond purchases.

Oh i was done but...corey...I 'KNOW' that you are one of the more experienced players on here and all....but

You seem to downgrade my own intelligence on here though and reference me to being as an ill-informed enthuthiast.

Truthfully saying, if you just look at the hunt results of level "8 elf" which, since the content of your post refers to me being "uninitiated" as to the quandary of such...you will find that their will be the most 'gross' quantity of such players, disregarding such legendary players such as "Legolas" and others who did not use such advantages that they can complete hunts of substantial nature in which only a 'little' of investigative work will reveal that such feats were not completed out of pure skill...but were the result of advantageous perks from buying diamonds to buff their prospective players. 735 U-Bears at CL 8?

How could you do that but without a great hunter set you had bought???
You can do that with a earned Greater Hunter Set, but I have seen 'too' many participants with Great Hunter Sets with HG lvl "3" at CL 8 too not be ungloriously unabashed in righteous earned anger to not say something in regards to your post.

I am not saying that diamonds, win the game, but certain advantageous inclinations ARE afforded to those that just throw $20 to $50 at this game continuously. Do not get me wrong my friend.
At least at level 8 is what you have to get what I am saying...and Shrews ARE retaliated against, forgive my misstep...
You seem to downgrade my own intelligence

Or judging by your response to every player thus far, perhaps you are too sensitive to criticism of your arguments.

If I filter the hunts to level 8 elves, the first two players I see are;

https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=3150647 - level 8; 4286 lg points.
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=5000350 - Level 9; 21192 lg points.

They can afford hunter sets because they grind their LG to be able to pay for them! The game is a grind - grinding to get gold is a part of it. You argue that players are using diamonds to get GH sets, I argue that they are developing their LG level and choosing to purchase it with gold. As Techy pointed out earlier, to buy a GH set is not that expensive - You choose what to do with your gold.

We could argue about it all day. You are convinced that players are buying diamonds to pay for their hunt record attempts and that this means they are out of reach of the average player who does not use diamonds. I am arguing that players with good money management and LG grind have no problem affording the sets necessary to set these records.
At lower levels, yes it could be the case that diamonds are more dominant in hunts than at higher levels.

But what you have to keep in mind, is that it still requires a lot of skill at a high enough record point even with BB and enchants you can't just faceroll Everything. Buying a great hunter set isn't very expensive, you just have to enroll and play slowly.

Dwarves are also very good at PvP low levels because of the reasons you mentioned, but keep in mind you have one of the best shooters in the game and your EFK if used properly will be amazing.

The point of diamonds is to give some sort of advantage to yourself, for example diamond upgrades are amazing.
for Dedrago:
It's easy to list the benefits of all factions except your own.

If you like, I could list down the numerous benefits of being an elf, all of which you seem to overlook.

I've been a demon (primarily DD) for most of my time and it's one of the most versatile yet fragile faction. But you don't see peeps like us proposing what ifs. What ifs are child's play. There's always a flaw with every faction and either deal with your factions' flaw and adapt or change faction to one which in your mind is perfect. It's not rocket science.

I'm a proud owner of DU at my level, and I DO NOT donate (maybe in small amounts but at an insignificant level) and yet I still can afford it somehow, you just need better financial management. If you think diamonds can make you a better player, so be it. It's helping this game too which I so dearly like.
Just my thoughts. I am the infamous "Unicorn Poster" for all those who wonder. Still proud of it. Mr. Battle Control...you and me are not compatible since you sided with the judgment of one you "always" side with...without actually taking in the facts of a given situation...

I happen to be a forum moderator and you happen to violate all the possible forum rules you could.
In addition,my area of expertise doesn't include factions and generally fighting but i still can point you out that you should discuss it in the right place with the right manners.
You should also keep in mind that my bans till now are very generous considring the violations.
I am also surprised that everyone seems to be your enemy untill he/she track you back to some facts/rules that you should have already been aware of.(Provided that you present yourslef as someone with a fully documented opinion)Then you are not ignorant?


To stay on topic,i believe you are completely wrong.In order to obtain these sets you need no more than 3-4 days of enrolling,which doesn't sound like pay to win to me.
DUs are a big bonus sometimes but not a must in order to win.I have to add that you can't have DU at CL8 so that's not the case
And many other things that numerous people have pointed out.
Let me also give you a fair and last warning about some rules
3. Your topic should concern general game issues only. Attempting to advance one’s personal interests by masking them as general issues is subject to a long-lasting forum ban.

8. Personal attacks or squabbling is strictly forbidden in this or other forum sections. If you have a bone to pick with someone, do so – espectfully – via private messages.

2.2. Users are prohibited to leave messages containing any of the following information: obscene, abusive, vulgar language, offending, insulting messages.

P.S You can always rent arts from other players if you think you can't afford buying them yourself
Keep also in mind that the majority here don't have English as main language, shorter and simpler messages right to the point would be more easy to read and understand.
lords of war and money

war: character building, attributes allocation, talent selection, recruitment, settlement, efficient move, risk management (luck, morale, ability trigger, min max damage).

money: financial management, funding the battle cost, Diamond upgrade, access to rare and/or enchanted artifacts.

please, with all due respect: instead of whining and suggesting to buff your unit recruitment count (the topic is forbidden anyway), people should get the idea of how to get better at this game.

back to topic: yeah diamond upgrade can give a significant advantage, so does the bonus artifacts from donation. but to be fair, admin also give options to non-donator to acquire them.

one more thing, dear thread starter please elaborate your opinion in more simple paragraphs, short and concise.
these sets you need no more than 3-4 days

HG, MH and GH only requires a few hours based on how 'well developed the LG is,' which could be a lot less than 1 day for an active player.

So, it's kinda even easier than that.
Wow.. i never knew one would need to donate to afford MH/GH set for record.
Hardly few days of enroll, as stated above.

And if you were referring about DU's by donations.. its not MUST. You still can make records without it.
Want example?
Look at this player - https://www.lordswm.com/pl_rew_info.php?pl_id=4551148&type=hunt
Look at his number of records.. and note that he don't have DU.

And there are lot more characters like him who don't use DUs for hunt records.


And, again you started whining about Unicorns.. then just answer this question which I previously also stated in your last thread.
If you think Unicorns are less, then how come most 1vs1 Tournament medal happens to be ELF! ?
Don't you think if already elves are winning most now, after adding 2-3 unicorns, it will be unbalanced?

Just think about it. Problem with you is you are not trying to understand what everyone is pointing out, admins are not foolish. They know it well, elves are perfectly well balanced faction, thats why it is most played faction in game.
Wow...Just wow....

Judging by the response of people to my posts, I am becoming a venerable celebrity around here. Thanks for the hate, people...and the love "both' are equally accepted at my table. As both EACH make me stronger.

LOL The "one" thing I am glad at in here is that I am actually making people "research their stuff" to reply to me. Unerringly cutting off the dross of people who just like to make mean comments for the benefit of actually doing nothing else...except such...as they will be cut down like the chaff of wheat in a storm in my opinion for posting such nonsense.

To start off...I won't even @name certain individuals that I am targeting...as you are becoming as many as me...and that means I shall speak more to the majority...instead of the minority.

To others that are becoming more as an enemy of debate here, I "will" name you and in so doing, give you more respect as I actually will acknowledge your presence...

Call me arrogant but you who wish to parley your thoughts to me willy nilly will come to a short and blunt end by death of pen. I will not tolerate it, and neither should you, so if you have something to say...be ready for a curt, tight and uplifting response that will drag you to the lower levels of the abyss for responding with acute ignorance of the space in which you are trying to acquire. That being "This guy sucks, so Ima say that too him and hope he quits somehow..." You will be swiftly realizing the opposite of the matter...so come...enjoy me. No pun intended

one more thing, dear thread starter please elaborate your opinion in more simple paragraphs, short and concise.

Make my sentences shorter?

Lol...sure thing grandma and what else do you want a sandwich with the crusts and corners cut off while i'm at it?...I will do that as soon as hades freezes over. I am not going to make my sentences shorter just because someone doesn't speak my language. If I did that, I might as well stop talking, as complex sentence structure is absolutely mandatory for aspiring English learners. Beginners will find it hard...but those that are actually becoming proficient will find it exuberating to actually read and comprehend. Get life real in your head for once will you? Don't try and cut ME down because you don't like to read long drawn out post such as mine hahahahahhahahahha.......the humor!

You seem to downgrade my own intelligence

Or judging by your response to every player thus far, perhaps you are too sensitive to criticism of your arguments.


Quote : "From the wisdom of those that posted to me, whether they were being insulting or not...

I TOOK THEIR ADVICE.

Because I am not a biased, uncompromising miser..." Quote

Oh yes...I am very sensitive, and i'll ADMIT it. For the aspiring astrologists in here...my moon is in LEO so you may understand me more now....I am comfortable in my own masculine skin even if there are subtle feminine tones in it...as we are all "both" male and female and have been repressed by patriarchal dominance for generations. Get THAT up your skin to discuss with me when you talk about sensitiveness. You responded, therefore you are as sensitive as I am.

EVEN THOUGH, I took that sensitiveness of mine, and molded into 'taking the advice.' I make my weaknesses my strengths...
Which is more than SOME textbook sensitive natures do...I don't have to explain "that" do I? "I took their advice" THAT is the main theme here, I would wonder if I was making these posts and actually was as bullheaded and deaf as the people who seem to become my mini nemesis in here are...because they obviously are hypocritically guilty as sin as they are committing the "same" acts they are telling "ME" not to do, or not do in my posts.

"Be short and concise."

How many sentences do you need to tell me that? As the poster of that comment I will "not
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