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any thoughts on the order to upgrade towers....i was thinking to take knocking shot then double shot then last no ranged penalty

in early rounds you don't need tower damage as much and could always do with a knocking shot effect.

am i missing anything?

i have already levelled the damage to 10 and endurance by a couple levels
I would personally do knocking shot last, depending on your faction and general tactics.

Rationale based as follows

Double shot - always does double damage compared to before upgrade
no ranged - often does double damage compared to before upgrade
knocking shot - sometimes knocks target

For me playing as a shadow barb the intention is to rush towards them and hold them up away from peasants and buildings and thus reduce the liklihood of losing them. As time progresses disruption ray will allow towers to do more considerable damage.

Since they will aso be delayed there is slightly less need for knocking

So for me it will probably be no range penalty, then double then knocking (though I have not bought a tower yet to know the respective prices)
thanks, and your theory definitely makes sense...

must say i am enjoying DE build, shrews obviously rock and Liz takes out bigger stacks..... with two stacks cast confusion with decent ini i am doing well so far.
the prices are

400 knocking

500 no range

600 double shot.


im using charmer and its working for me only lost 1 due to large numbers and holy knight, doubt it will work later on tho
Economically is the event profitable?
Its actually quite fun so I'll be playing anyway but I'm just curious to know what the price of the artifact parts will end up being since there will be an abundance of it in the market soon enough...

Also does difficulty keep increasing to such an extent that it becomes impossible to win or is it guaranteed that all fights are winnable?
All events are profitable if you do well enough.

In terms of winning, a fair few players won all their combats last time.

https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2660844
The knocking shot would be a good choice if you have couple of points on defense (and hence a lot of health, which improves chance of proc).

My plan is to have the front towers for tanking and knocking shot, with back towers focusing on damage.
If I remember from last time, getting knocking shot actually lowers init of the tower, someone may have to check that
a fair few players won all their combats last time.

All level 6
for Fallen Atheros:

Did you even look at the link Meshy put up, most of the top 100 had 72 wins, and not all were level 6 (though I recognise many were low levels). However, equally sufficient were not to show that it is possible should you choose (or be able to choose) the right faction, strategy and tactics.
Double shot - always does double damage compared to before upgrade
no ranged - often does double damage compared to before upgrade


Actually for far away opponents both upgrades deal roughly the same that is double the damage. getting the lower damage on both shots will equal the lower of one single no ranged penalty shot. since the chances that BOTH the attacks will be the least damage is comparatively low, double shot will end up dealing more damage. furthermore no ranged penalty will only give a double damage while double shot gives 4 times damage when opponents are within range and twice when they are not. so I would recommend double shot then no ranged penalty and finally knocking shot.
for Lord MilesTeg:

perhaps you should take a second look and then reply on me?
and you admit this event forces you to play certain factions and NOT factions you like to play as
All level 6

17th place was a level 20
Of the top 100, 96 managed to get 72/72

A quick count shows 68 of them were not level 6.
for TheLivingDead:
If they are out of range the whole battle (what I am anticipating) then double shot and no ranged penalty give the same increase. However since no range penalty is cheaper, that for me decided its preference.

One can also equate both of those to the price of a second tower, which I believe is cheaper than either upgrade (from memory)


for Fallen Atheros:
You made a factually restrictive comment that the only people to win all 72 battles were level 6, this is simply incorrect (and my second look does not change the facts). Some people use exaggeration to highlight how something may be inherently skewed to one side, which may be what you were doing. I understand the sentiment behind that and acknowledged the limitations and assumptions inherent in saying it is feasible to get a high or perfect win rate. I am not some uncritical lackey that does not understand strengths and limitations of a situation. Equally I am not someone who views everything simply as one thing or another, as either broken or ok.

The situation is that this event is very restrictive in how to achieve a very high score, and it favours certain levels in this, and also a lower number of builds than is typical. However, it would be wrong to conclude that because this is difficult that it is impossible to achieve as demonstrably it has been in prior events.
The first high level is at 17th place and the next one at 24th, rest are all low levels. In the top 50 there are only 8 that are high level players of lvl 18-21, rest are all level 5-10, mostly level 6. The mid levels of 11-17 are hardly even in the top 100. Level 11, 13 and 17 did not even make that list. Level 12, 14 and 15 only once. Level 16 twice. This shows that the midsection of levels cannot even compete, so let's not be delusional that this event is for low level people and only a select few high level players of 18+levels.
Last line instead of 'that' it should have been a comma, thanks admins that in the year 2019 we still have no edit button for this forum, it is much appreciated by all.
So in short, the correct line is: let's not be delusional, this event is for low level people and only a select few high level players of 18+levels.
The first high level is at 17th place and the next one at 24th, rest are all low levels

What about the guy in 18th place?
@Meshy, so the one at 18th I overlooked makes all the difference? So instead of 8 there happen to be 9 high level players in the top 50, while 21 players are level 6 in the top 50 and rest also low levels.
I'm more interested in your:

this event is for low level people and only a select few high level players of 18+levels.

Why a select few? You make it sound like those people were chosen by the admins rather than skillful play.
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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