| Author | thievs |
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| has anybody else noticed that the thievs get more lucky than the victims ive defeated a few thievs and lost only because they get bursting or thier luck triggers....or am i just a poor loser? |
| maybe they were arts that gives them luck or morale? |
| Yeah, usually the thieves are wearing full arts and the victims are usually wearing min or even no arts. So the thieves have a little to large advantage but you can still beat them sometimes. |
Honestly .. every luck arts .. give different lucks boostings .. :) like amulet of luck and thieve amuelet ... the thieve 0ne gives higher percentage of lucks .. :) I wear them and know the difference .. :)
For the morales .. I think the same .. :) |
the thieve 0ne gives higher percentage of lucks
There's pure speculation. Both ammy of luck and thieves ammy gives +1 luck.
Luck is luck... |
The Theif Amulet may seem to give slightly more luck triggers simply because it also increases morale and initiative.
High morale and initiative = more creature turns
More creature turns = more luck triggers
The chance of getting luck is the same, but with a higher morale and initiative you get more opportunities for luck to trigger, so it seems like your luck is better than with an Amulet of Luck.
Have Fun
Grunge |
I just lost to a thief that had 5 morale -_-
He was the only DE to date to ever defeat me as a Wizard hehe...but I learned a valuable lesson ;)
Never assume your opponent has 1-3 morale. If he has 5, you need to play totally different xD |
| I believe the thief setup is more advantageous than the victim setup. |
he thieve 0ne gives higher percentage of lucks
I wish xD |
#8:
I think that's just a mirage. When you ambush, you know you have to attack. When you are ambushed, there is the idea of defending yourself. The thieves hunters just forgot about defending and they attack. That is actually the advantage: the way of thinking. Don't forget, the best defence is the attack! |
I think that's just a mirage
when you are in middle it is alot harder to protect archers ;)
like elf vs elf guess who wins ;) |
#10
Also thieves do get to see the victim profile before setup, while the victim can only see hero details. |
#11:
You have a nice smile from me because you should know that the archers are nothing but baits. It is exactly what I was speaking about. You think too much about defending yourself and that makes your job harder.
like elf vs elf guess who wins
Ambusher takes the bowmen. The ambushed one breaks the druid wall with efk's and enters with sprites. Who has any advantage now? The damage is the same in the both cases and the bowmen are dead or blocked along with a big part of druids. But for that, you need to give up your defending way of thinking. ;) |
#12:
For me it's enough the details I get. My strategy depends on the details I see and there is few hidden and can be seen in the profile (TG level and the faction level). That is too few information and it can be neglected without having too much trouble during the combat. |
#1:
judge for yourself:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=12308999
and i can give you some other examples like when i was ambushing and i lost because of one player who had luck 1 got twice in the row luck with his hydras. |
Also thieves do get to see the victim profile before setup, while the victim can only see hero details.
Wow. That's a huge advantage. I never knew that. It's surprising that thieves don't win 90% of these ambushes. Or do they? |
#16
Speaking from personal experience. I tend to win a lot more as the thief rather vs as the victim. And this is given that all parties involved are using full arts. |
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it's very true that if both the thief and the victim wear the same level arts, the thief usually wins. the thief has the advantages of seeing the victim's profile and also being able to settle the troops on the corners.
but at high levels, because the caravans are so difficult, many thieves don't wear the best arts. then if some self-defined thief-hunters or policemen come wearing full arts, they could easily beat the thief. |
| victim also do get to see thief's profile before setup, i always do |
but at high levels, because the caravans are so difficult, many thieves don't wear the best arts. then if some self-defined thief-hunters or policemen come wearing full arts, they could easily beat the thief.
exactly, that becomes somebody's only way to earn exp/fsp, since they cannot win hunting, MG, TG, and small chance in group battles. |
