| Author | why so many people think necro is weak at high level? |
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i mean in PvP,maybe necro is too slow to gain exp/sp,but their raise ability always make them survive to the last,and in GB,having one necro in team often helps a lot.
I know necro is not fit for TG,HG,MG(except those monsters,infected zombies rules in monster's wolrd.XD).I only mean in PvP,is necro really so weak?
what's your opinion?share it pls. |
| it is weak, so they can raise wipty do, necros are overrated, after you raise ghosts 2-3 times they usually die with 1 hit from most units, and vamps yeah they are usefull but once you step on them they useless IMO necro sux. |
-_- higher level necros rarely rely on raises, most go for a might build with 20-30 mana,
it's just that lack of morale makes them slightly disadvantages than other troops but in group battles they are tough opponents.
another reason can be that high level hunt, quest and thieving is easier with factions other than necro more than often, so that's another factor.
off topic: Mti seems to be enjoying his necro days :p |
| Another reason is because necro units are slow. Most high levels tend to lean towards TG-favorable factions. In the high levels you need fast hard hitting factions or the caravans would easily run you over. |
| Watch a few battles from SIDERISKA and tell me again, that high level necro is weak. ^^ |
| Necro main advantage is raise, since elf has raise too, they are overnotpowered |
| Because there are few necromants on high levels. In PvP necro don't need rise or fantom spells(on high levels) and I think it is more powerful than popular DE. |
| raise isnt his advantage,maybe when u are at low level u think it,but at highers u have to have big nature talent skill,a lot of mana and spell power,if u hadnt u can raise so 5 vampires and its very small number,his advantage is big luck,skeleton bows,and... But at higher lvl u really need to have fast turns and good morale and with necro isnt,he has small iniciative with all,no morale,necro is just very weak |
| necro rules at hunt just so you know |
for tany:
Let others underextimate necro power! ;-)
Unfortunately good players like Kusika and LordSchniesel are hard to joke!! xD |
| i just think that most high lv players choose to be DE or other fast factions,which means,most players has a risistance to those faction,for example,i now have 3%*6=18% damage reduce from DE and 3*3%=9% damage from barb now,but few players have risistance from necro. XD |
Necro sucks because Delay = Pwns them
I have seen people cast mass Delay on necros, or even single delay, and it pretty much makes a necro worthless---especially if there is a barb hero to knock.
If necro units were faster, they'd be dangerous, but they're too slow (and if they had morale too of course) |
no moral is the big problem for necro,esp when other factions never have minus moral.
but darkness magic should be great for necros,when in GB,cast mass delay/disruption ray/curse in expert darkmagic lv,enemis are definitely in trouble.however this wont help necro gain more exp or sp,so maybe that's why few people will choose to use magic. |
| Id say, until we get Magic Guild 4 and 5, we wont see a lot of Magic Necro, maybe later, we will see, when the admins will decide to actually update the game. |
AS others have said,
The advantages of being moral-neutral become obsolete since there is NO MECHANISM to reduce opponents' moral (and luck too).
Also, necros are suppose to overcome their enemies with overwhelming legions of undead... unfortunately we dont have the numbers.
Also when I play HOMM, I always get the +1 to min and max damage AND +1 to HP because these ARE GREAT skills for legions of units. But we dont get them at all / easily (No OFFENCE talent tree and LOL have to spend 22 talent points for the HP talent).
Necros talent and racial skills need a re-think. We need the OFFENCE tree and lol who uses SORCERY for necro? Are we suppose to magic punch enemies?
Also necros are suppose to be Masters of Dark magic and guess what... we have the LEAST talent skill in Darkness talent tree. You now understand why very few necros are magic-oriented.
So here are some ideas how to improve necros:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1858318&page=0
However, if you look at my PvP battles, I am doing pretty good despite the above. But as a support, I usually get the least XP, needs a lot of expensive artifacts and that really FUSTRATEs me... ESPECIALLY when I mass curse them all and they become easy targets for my PvP partners but i dont get to kill them since I dont max my MIGHT skills... |
so the biggest trouble of necro is slow...
is necro slower than kni?
if not,why there's more kni than necro at high lv? |
its a little bad necro dont got morale 1+ from the start.
but since they dont got 1+ morale, i maybe think it will be a good idea to give em +1 luck from the start.
and i just think necro are funnist to play with:) |
17,
cool idea! XD |
17 great!
There should be no bonus+1 moral. Coz theres no -1 moral penalty |
| watch some gb from xXxKratosxXx and tell me then again that necro is weak lol |
