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AuthorBest faction to counter DE on lev 10 i above ( in duels)
Many people says its Barb becouse shooters can take shrews fast , is it true ? Or better choose Wizzard?
i think wizard would be a really bad choice, if you want to beat a high level DE i think you should be demon, barb or knight, and barb is probably the easiest of those 3 to change to, since faction level doesn't really matter...
So its demon , barb , i knight ? but knight got low initiative does he ? And demon seems so...demonic ;) with gating
Demon you need very high faction, if you want your horses to have any chance of kiling shrews before they strike. Barbarian works fairly well, with 2 shooters, knight, I don't see why knight would be good..?
I really dont know 2 , knights shooters got like 10 initiative shrews will get 2 turns with morale bost maybe even more O_o
knight, I don't see why knight would be good..?

Check ZaR`s older combat logs to see why knight. Knight with 35 defence and defensive talents is annoying.
necro is mission imposible for a DE!
if you don't see why knight would be good, then just look at Antos' combat log, i still don't think any of the top players has found a way to beat him 1-1:P
and for omega,.knight with 35 defence is only good at being ambushed,and that has big difeerence from a duel!
Nekro ? so why everybodys switching from nekro to DE (maia setsvieta)
Because everyone is switching to DE because they rule at hunts and thieving.

Honestly I can't see elf being too bad vs. DE since you have GMB which will kill the shrews, along with anchorites which do about 300 damage a shot. (Out of range).
So why everybody who i meet says to switch couse elf dont stand a chance with DE
Honestly I can't see elf being too bad vs. DE

yea

elves are pretty good like de & can even beat them
might wizard :D. But thats a very very hard way, because you need min-arts (=> lots of money).
A knight in my opinion can defeat a DE from level 10 upwards without even playing serious. I mean a knight could put all his talent points on HM and get some amazing bonuses like mass expert castise + mass expert rapid + mass expert bless, can you imagine what would those xbows and monks do with those bonuses, and don't forget that when the xbows and monks die the is still gonna have a guardian, and did i mention the stoneskin bonus?
2 Secure ways:

1. Knight with Escort and high Def

2. Barb

Cheers,
LS
well played necro can kill DE.

wizard with good mini arts.
Where is the problem in killing a DE if you are a necro?

I don't have duels cause no one does duels al level 10. Would you like to see a pair ambush? I am the ambushed and we have more or less the same artifacts.

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There is A HUGE difference if u ambush.. BB Shooters cuz u reach them easy.. But a necro warrior ( 30 mana ) or mage ( superpoison ) dies because of low ini and morale 0.. Wiz dont try vs a De in lv 10 cuz cant escape of shrews :S
And i dont think a demon can beat us in lv 10.. Shrews bb cerberi :S
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