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I would say fair in form of it wasnt an secret what the punishment of geting caught is. I would however in the end agree upon the fact that they might be somewhat draconic.
Anyway, enroll 10 times aday. Once a day, hunt. When your arts break down, get them repaired for free by ppl who are training. Will however take 2 month.
Funny thing, just removing the money transfered (260.600) would have put you down to -106k and I get the feeling the whining would have been equaly amusing :D | this is not your game. you cannot do as you please.
if you want additional money, make some donations | | Just learn to play by the rules the rest of us do, people like you make me sick. I have never broken rules so why on earth should you eh? | 15
Use limited arts only for 1 battle every 10 enroll (or better 11) and only in hunts (hope to get a weapon from hunter set)
Travel a lot without arts and hope to be ambushed by min art thief (almost no chance, but you can always try)
Don't enroll in mine (never, at least enroll in machining facilities, better production if you find them with gold and resource)
Pass every Mercenary quest you find EXCEPT escort mission (you can try them with no arts).
Since you need more or less 400 enrollments and so only 40 won battles you can do it.
IF you get workaholic penalty keep enrolling at whichever facilities you find with gold, just to get a higher LG. | | Just rent some min AP for yourself till you get the workoholic penalty out lol. | | make a new character it will be faster, you will never get the 220.000 | | Can you tell me in easy worlds what is workoholic penalty ? | 25
How is he gonna pay for the rent without money?
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Chance description, no more smithing for free.
Let your customers pay 10% (at least) of repair cost. To get to SG1 you usually need to provide the item, then you can offer 20% repair for a really low cost (but not free!) | workaholic penalty
If you enroll more than 10 times after your last won battle you get an efficiency drop of 20% at each further enrollment till your efficiency get down to 10% (the 15th enrollment and above).
If you win a battle (every type, except survival tournament ;) your efficiency return to 100%. | make a new character it will be faster, you will never get the 220.000
serves him right, he should suffer not make another char he should pay for his crimes | | he begs for mercy, though yet he doesn't understand that he did something wrong.. | This topic made me smile :)
you broke the rules, you get fined. Whats the problem?
That's exactly the point! The punishment is absolutely fair. You cheated to get a lot of money, and now you are fined for a lot of money. That's what i call fair :). Now you can experience, what it's like to play this game like everyone else. If you can't menage to afford the gold for your playing style, maybe the game is just too hard for you, as Nutella mentioned before.
You can't expect mercy or empathy from the comunity that is facing the same problems like you without cheating: AP-rule or workaholic rule. Don't blame others for your own failure - just learn from it.
And regard this: You didn't cheated the game or admins or moderators -> You cheated yourself and every player you faced on the battlefield, struggling to keep up with cheaters like you! | And regard this: You didn't cheated the game or admins or moderators -> You cheated yourself and every player you faced on the battlefield, struggling to keep up with cheaters like you!
This should be written on the stone!! Thanks Gott!
An unfair win doesn't worth a coin compared to an honorable defeat. This is a game and if you aren't able to face your limits and try to improve your ability neither here, you have lost in your life... | Good Job Admins :) We do not need such cheaters! And more he screams more threat he brings to other cheaters :)
Next time think twice before do such things... | he begs for mercy, though yet he doesn't understand that he did something wrong..
He knows what he did wrong. His rage is at the idiotic rules that the admins have come up with in their greed for donations - workawholic and min AP. They're illogical.
I would like to ask anyone with a brain why they think it's illegal for me not to take pity on this player and give him all of my current gold (which I'm not using, since I'm just enrolling mostly). Furthermore, then maybe you would like to explain how gifts are allowed and not considered illegal transfers (they're not repaid back within 1 month, are they?). And I don't think there's any law in real life that forbids me from spending all of my money on a gift for someone or from giving it away for charity (this case here is a perfect example of a player in need). | Well, I would like to ask everyone when you can control creatures and battle other people, when travelling to a far away area takes two minutes, and when prices never change in shops (no inflation/deflation).
This is a game (not real life), so this is part of the challenge, and if you can't live with the challenges in the game, then that is unfortunate. Games all have challenges, and it is your choice whether you think a game is too hard or not, and if you believe it is, then you'll have to stop playing the game. Many people have coped with the challenges in this game, and well at that, so you can't really argue that they're impossible to play with. (And many of those people don't pay.) We have to live with those restrictions.
Anyways, we are lucky, because many games make you pay for things that we OTHERWISE cannot get. We COULD get rid of AP and workaholic, but then again, we'd probably have to suffer upgrades only paying people can get, and other features. Would you rather have that kind of system instead? I wouldn't. | And I don't think there's any law in real life that forbids me from spending all of my money on a gift for someone or from giving it away for charity
good point, but there is also no rule in real life that says i cant make 5 clones of myself to work all the time and give me all the money. except countries that have anti cloning laws, where it would be illegal to make clones in the first place.
or countries where it is illegal to hit other people with axes to get more experience in life.... wait thats most places.
im sorry, im trying to compare this game to real life but its getting pretty difficult. do we have fairies and goblins???
he cheated and now he is screwed. get over it. if you want a real life comparison thats it right there. | @1
Agreed, if i have broken a rule, i should be punished.
I am glad you acknowledge that.
As you have pointed out, it would be very difficult for you to get out of this situation with the current rules. MathProfessor on post 24 & 28 of this thread has given good advise.
Either u people decide to remove the workoholic penalty to make the punishment senseful or do something else required which u might be knowing better.
The rules are here for a reason, and I believe it will be here to stay. We all would just have to live with it.
what then, ill make another one and this time again, ill cheat if thats what u call cheating.
This does not sound like someone who is repentant, nor willing to accept the punishment for mistakes done. Are you truly repentant? I hope that you are.
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if again he dos the same mistake impose him this or even more penalty
Cynic, I may be, but everyone has been warned time and again not to cheat. If kulu8 gets off without the appropriate punishment, it is a precedence for future such cases. An "even more penalty" for the same mistake would have minimal impact as he would only have more incentive to restart. A penalty of 100m gold would hardly hurt anyone more than a penalty of 1m gold.
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He knows what he did wrong.
Perhaps, but I doubt he is repentant, thus expect the same cheating behaviour to continue. Only this time, it might be harder to trace.
His rage is at the idiotic rules that the admins have come up with in their greed for donations - workawholic and min AP. They're illogical.
It has been said that these rules are to improve the sorely lacking economic (in-game) part of this game. The donations that might arise from it perhaps a side-effect, intended or otherwise. The rules equally apply to all. We as players of this game will have to abide by them.
I would like to ask anyone with a brain why they think it's illegal for me not to take pity on this player and give him all of my current gold
Certainly not ALL of your current gold as it is a violation of rule 3.15
3.15. ..... Presents must not exceed 30% of the monetary property of the character per month. ....
But otherwise, there is nothing to stop you from making gifts to him.
As for your query on why of gifts are allowed, it is not within my purview to answer that.
If you wish to donate to charity, you can always do so, as long as it is within the limits set by the rules of this game.
I'd agree with you that this is a perfect example of a player in need, but I'd like to ask if you think it is a perfect example of a worthy cause for such charity. Let's not forget why the penalty was imposed. | @25
Good that you spoted the problem with renting equipment without money.
Now, how do you suggest he does repairs without money? And even if that was possible, what gain would he have at repairing at "a small fee"?
#35
Actually... Draconic or not, the punishment should according to rules have been higher. Admins took 375k gold from him, where he had transfered 260k. They should, according to rules stated earlier in this thread, taken 520k. The punishment in it self was rougly 115k gold, the rest of it is just a correction of money he shouldnt have had in the first place. The rules where there before he started cheating, so I will have to assume that he took that into concideration before cheating, finding that it was at some lvl worth the risk.
I find it funny/amusing that anyone would humiliate them self to this extent, by freely point them self out as an whining looser. This over something caused by their own actions :P | Uhh...
@25 should actually be @28 |
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