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vangaurd wizard 1 - impossible for necor lv7


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Authorvangaurd wizard 1 - impossible for necor lv7
ghost2519
 1  2010-05-14 12:43:29
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=21549661
Lady misself
 2  2010-05-14 12:45:32
not impossible, just unlikely.

you bows had 10.6 initiative whereas the gremlins had 11. next time you try there is a chance you can go 1st
royalknight1
 3  2010-05-14 12:45:37
yep
Lord vishnus
 4  2010-05-14 12:47:07
Also you may need magic punch.Similar fight is vanguard of knights.
EROCS
 5  2010-05-14 12:49:21
Similar to this.
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1869920

Hope your bows come before the gremlins next time.
Dog-my-Cats
 6  2010-05-14 14:40:52
or buy some artifacts which give initiative.
Lord vishnus
 7  2010-05-14 15:26:45
That maynot work.Bcause even shrews wouldn't get 2 turns before gremlin engineers strike. You would need to attack them and kill them first.For that orcs may be required as they are faster.Or your Merc Arc should survive their 1st strike.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=21530281
I was wrong.Hero can't do anything before gremlins strike.Hero can strike first only in knight vanguard.
moki-
 8  2010-05-14 15:36:10
it's a little bit bugged imo

i think they changed target priority without considering these minor quests

but it gets easier as you level it up because you get extra merc warriors and having more than 1 of them makes it np for grems to go first
Elite_Aviator
 9  2010-05-14 16:42:45
2 defence)
hhaha)
*epic*
#7181Lord MasterTI
 10  2010-05-14 18:39:54
moki is right and wrong...

I think he forgets the increase of gremlins is ALOT higher then mercs...So either way you have same problem...

You need to wait for faster units OR get ini items and hope that 10% randomness puts you in front.

As for #7

Tactics = GG
#4201Lord Ranor
 11  2010-05-14 18:44:02
If my memory serves me right it will get better with higher lvl as the number of merc increases su much, that they won't be killed in the first round by gremlins.
#7153DragonFlayer
 12  2010-05-14 19:58:25
I beat that one at level 5, here is the link. https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=15993128
What I do now is split my bows in three or four stacks so you can get lucky and maybe two stacks will go before the Gremlin Engieners.
#7153Lord DEATHisNEAR
 13  2010-05-14 20:55:04
I won as level 7 necro.

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=10738902

You just need a little luck with the initial positions on move bar.
#7153Lord DEATHisNEAR
 14  2010-05-14 21:04:01
sorry for double post. That was {0}

But also at level 7 as necro I killed:

Vanguard of wizards {1} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=10802824
Vanguard of wizards {2} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=10970165
Vanguard of wizards {3} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=11003807
Vanguard of wizards {4} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=11031976
Vanguard of wizards {5} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=11100256
Vanguard of wizards {6} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=11105368
Vanguard of wizards {7} - https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=11529958

In fact - as far as i can see from my combat logs I did not lose a single one of these until much later on. So not that hard.
#7153Lord DEATHisNEAR
 15  2010-05-14 21:06:54
Not my day for making mistakes :(

Vanguard of wizards {7} was at level 8 so only did upto {6} at level 7.
Lord vishnus
 16  2010-05-15 01:37:52
In (1) and (2) there only about 5 gremlins.You would have won evenif your bowmen came second.You are lucky :)
#7153Lord DEATHisNEAR
 17  2010-05-15 01:57:05
That is what I mean. These quest are easy unless both gremlin stacks get first ranged shots in AND both hit with max possible damage.
darmogathel
 18  2010-05-15 03:18:41
Necro 9 beat vanguard wizar {17} easily
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489544293
Godrictheroyal
 19  2010-05-16 09:35:10
total 8 gremlins will deal 4-8 damage,and the mercenary archer has 8 hp.
so,this can be regarded as unlucky
Lady Straws
 20  2010-05-16 10:16:33
for DEATHisNEAR:
The difference between your battles and his, is that yours are done before Grand Update while his was after. Hint: Gremlins number
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