| Author | A vote about current "blindfold" tournament |
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for makmak:
LOS gave a statement that allow their members to do the same having seen how Elite worked
You want to show me this statement because I am unaware of it. I am the co-leader and I made no such statement so I assume you are accusing Stu. If this was made on the forum I missed it. I hope you made a mistake and if you did I want an apology. |
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After restriction was removed, most of Elite members went in tournament in teams and practically destroyed the fun of other players with a top show of staging at Friday and Saturday
LOS gave a statement that allow their members to do the same having seen how Elite worked
This to me appears quite clear that you accused us of some statement to allow our members to stage battles. You are saying that my eyes are blind? |
Clarification as requested by modi:
I never said that Los prompted their members to stage, and never said something like a mail was issued.
I refer to post 35 by stu:
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On a last note, I copy/pasted what Moderator Kotrin said in another thread about Empire's stance on this event and mailed it to my own clan...and told my mates to go ahead and do whatever they want since the leaders of other clans were not "so blunt" with their dissatisfaction of how things were going.
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That is, Los told their members they are allowed to do what they like resulting team play from LOS as reply to Elite team play.
Nothing more than that ;) |
Just because one has the freedom to do whatever they want...doesn't mean they'll copy the others, makmak. All I made clear on the forums was that the leadership of LoS wasn't going to be fighting this alone anymore.
No other clan's leaders were as adament about pushing for rule changes than our own, or even about the proposed 'gentleman's arrangements' that would of fallen on each player's personal honor to uphold. So the pushing stopped on my end, and I let me clan know that I had given up on the subject, and told them to honor the server rules (which is what ALL LoS members do). In this case the server rules were: "There are none." So we'll see what they decide to do. I can tell you that none of our level 12+ players have staged anything...we've simply stopped playing. I only did 4 battles, and earned a whopping 3 points.
Cheers,
LS |
No other clan's leaders were as adament about pushing for rule changes than our own, or even about the proposed 'gentleman's arrangements' that would of fallen on each player's personal honor to uphold. So the pushing stopped on my end, and I let me clan know that I had given up on the subject, and told them to honor the server rules (which is what ALL LoS members do).
As said many times above empire is the first to blame.
WGW moved one step further and issued mass mail imposing our members not to go in teams no matter what others do.
However even for some Los members who team played, I can't blame you or them since I was on tournament on Saturday evening... |
for makmak:
As said many times above empire is the first to blame.
WGW moved one step further and issued mass mail imposing our members not to go in teams no matter what others do.
However even for some Los members who team played, I can't blame you or them since I was on tournament on Saturday evening...
Sorry Makmak but you appear to try and toot your own clan's horn using LOS and it won't fly. Let's make things clear. It was LOS who sounded the alert and took the heat for doing it, not WGW. The way you "staged" your forum post was slick but you certainly won't be taking some high honor for OUR detective work. Unless your clan made a clear statement as you say "opposite" of LOS about your members not joining in matches with more than 2 players, your statement is misleading. Stu meant that we weren't about to worry how many LOS mates ended up in one fight and that's as far as that went and our clan mails were consistant in that area. No sir, it was LOS who led the charge against this corrupt tournament, thank you very much. |
for Modi:
Enough politics, you are right on that point and I think makmak didnt say anything on that point. What he said is, AFTER empire removed the rule, WGW continue and imposed to all his members via a clan mail to NOT stagged battle even if it was not declared LEGAL by empire's rules.
Thats all, you are getting emotions there for nothing Modi |
stagged battle even if it was not declared LEGAL
must read : stagged battle even if it was declared LEGAL |
Enough politics, you are right on that point and I think makmak didnt say anything on that point. What he said is, AFTER empire removed the rule, WGW continue and imposed to all his members via a clan mail to NOT stagged battle even if it was not declared LEGAL by empire's rules.
Thats all, you are getting emotions there for nothing Modi
Uh, nope, he stated that WGW sent the OPPOSITE message to their clan. I know what I am reading here. |
for Modi:
Well it seems you read things that are not in his post cause I dont see anything (in his last post, after clarification) saying that LoS has sent a message to his members imposing them to team play, stage all battles they are in. Sorry I dont read between lines where theres nothing to read about. |
Uh, nope, he stated that WGW sent the OPPOSITE message to their clan. I know what I am reading here.
Yes that is what happened. |
It is true that LOS brought Elite tricks to light and LOS may deserve credit for that.
It is equally true that WGW stopped our members of retaliating in this tactic and sent mass mail to members in order not to team play and WGW may deserve credit for that.
Unfortunately it may be true that for many players both our clans may look stupid compared to what Elite did and Elite may get credit for that :( |
Uh, nope, he stated that WGW sent the OPPOSITE message to their clan. I know what I am reading here.
Yes that is what happened.
Sorry dude but our leadership played it straight to our clan mates through our clan mail so there was no opposite message being given. As far as the truth, who was it taking the heat for exposing this nonsense? Thats right LOS.
Nice try though but epic fail. Dont use LOS to make some point about your own wonderful clan. I fought three matches and refused to play after the event was ruined. We are always the clan bringing corruption in the light while most others do nothing. Thats the real deal. |
It is true that LOS brought Elite tricks to light and LOS may deserve credit for that.
It is equally true that WGW stopped our members of retaliating in this tactic and sent mass mail to members in order not to team play and WGW may deserve credit for that.
Unfortunately it may be true that for many players both our clans may look stupid compared to what Elite did and Elite may get credit for that :(
for Modi: Here you have what you are fighting for ! Credits, I told you, you were fighting for nothing, we know that you are the one who push EW tricks to the light. |
Look, guys. Modi is just saying that you (WGW) should not try to share or take-away from the credit that it was US (LoS) that shed light on this matter on the forums.
It was US that proposed for changes that would, in essence, supercede the rules (whatever they may be, as flawed as they are).
However, no other clan leader jumped on board on the forums--not even WGW.
It takes courage to make a stand. We made it, and got swept. It doesn't matter what other clans say in their clan messages...no one else but their own mates read them.
So this is why Modi is stirred. Add in the fact that English is OUR native languages (Modi and myself) and this is where we get even more problems because I know that yours (makmak) is not, and I assume Dan-Panic's is not either (unless he's from the South or Canadian).
Anyway. We but a bullseye sign on our backs (proof is in our battles, we get smashed by all the clans for turning on the lights) for being open in the forums. If you want one too, I suggest you support us the next time we bring up an issue FROM THE START...instead of trying to weasel in when it's already over. |
for limustudotcom:
Read makmak last message, read my last message, thanks for reading ! |
for Modi: Here you have what you are fighting for ! Credits, I told you, you were fighting for nothing, we know that you are the one who push EW tricks to the light.
Funny that I told Stu this^^ message was coming. Its the old trick of placing us in a defensive posture and then trying to say we are looking for credit when we are defending ourselves from false allegations. So predictable. |
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I read your messages. My reply to both your messages is above. Doesn't matter if we get credit or not, it only bothers us when someone else tries to take it for their own when it isn't theirs to take :)
We stand up to corruption at ever end. This is no different. |
