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AuthorMay 21, 2011-End Of The World?
And in regards to Chechnya, I really am not too sure about the truth there, and I think it's a case of they are now our allies, so they were in the right even if they weren't.

one thing I do know and don't just speculate on, the US government will support terrorism of civilian populations.

Case 1. Nicaragua
The terrorism training handbook CIA issue
http://www.tscm.com/CIA_PsyOps_Handbook.html
The wackier more entertaining cartoon one
https://p12.secure.hostingprod.com/@www.theqleaner.com/ssl/files/eBooks/Military/CIA_Sabotage_M anual.pdf

Case 2 Afghanistan
You'll love the author of this one
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/madein.htm
@515 I think that you tube video may be ambitious with it's claims. A small amount of research shows me the mobile was done in the US and so was the silicon chip. Einstein while Jewish, was German then American, so using the genius of Einstein as needing Israel, well, lets get some more horses for all that straw.

Research was done at Motorola-Israel son and of course that's where it all happens.

They even have a Motorola boycott because of its roots in Israel.

Just like our weapons manufacturers sell Israel planes and ammo, and Israel improves the weapons but doesn't get any credit for their upgrades and in fact is not allowed to upgrade many weapons because they will make Israeli planes and weapons more powerful than the Yanks.

That's the way it goes.

Remember Fishy, it was YOU and GRUNGE who chased me around about Israel, not Modi griping about Australia.
Nice try.

Malady anyone?
for Barbarian-Fishy:


You guys think I am embarrassed being a Jew or an American? Hardly. I revel in our position in the world and why not?

Would it not be insanity to hate yourself for being the best?

lol

We do what we can to police the world and protect sniveling populations of supposed allies, who dare to criticize but have trouble paying for their own defense. Hilarious. Without the USA, you ain't much on protecting yourselves.

That's why WE call the shots and YOU listen.
Also let me be clear. I think the Palis are LUCKY that Israel is as kind to them as they are.

They supply most of their clean drinking water and electricity. That's some horrible nation, eh? Providing water and power to the people who are shooting rockets at your citizens?

Ah yes, brutal Israel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fnTHyyvzWg&feature=related

This woman tells us what the Palis are really like.

If I were Israel, I would have ended the conflict years ago with a brutal and final response, then removing each and every terrorist from the territory permanently. Those who wish to stay, give up their weapons, and swear to renounce terrorism can stay and live a peaceful life, without the murderers who have held them back for so long.

I also consider abortion, murder and those who support it, murderers themselves. You don't.

Abortion is legal so not much I can do but protest peacefully.

On the other hand, Israel has Jerusalem and will keep it, regardless of how you feel about it.

You can protest to your heart's delight but it ain't gonna matter. You must live with it as I must live with legal abortion.
From their own mouths, some brave Palis dare to tell the truth about how women are treated in their land. Imagine siding with these people? I know, crazy eh?

Columnist for Maan: "In Our Times, the Woman is Beaten, Humiliated, and Murdered Without Trial"

'Aziz Al-'Asa, columnist for the Maan news agency, wrote: "The Aya Al-Baradh'iya affair has shaken the very foundations of our humanity. It arouses pain, sorrow, and shame. We still have not managed to free ourselves of the jahiliyya [the pre-Islamic era of ignorance and paganism]."[4]

Another Maan columnist, Bahah Rahal, wrote: "What honor and what character [is this]? What manliness [is this], to murder someone unjustly? What values are these that bury someone in a well? And what is the morality of these people, who cut short the life of a young girl in the spring of her days, with a chilling and horrifying act of murder?... Maiden Aya, may God have mercy on her – a young girl murdered and cast into a well by her uncle, not for any crime, but for falling into the trap of the accursed honor. What honor permits whose uncle murdered her and cast her into a well, not for any crime , not because she committed any crime, but [merely] because she fell into the trap of accursed [family] honor. What honor is this that allows a life, though blameless, to be murdered and buried?"[5]

Also on the Maan website, Osama Abu 'Awwad criticized the victimization of women, writing: "In our times, the woman is beaten, humiliated, and murdered without trial. She is married off against her will, imprisoned at home, and prevented from objecting [to any of this] – all under the cover of backward traditions and customs handed down from generation to generation."[6]
Again, the horrific treatment of women in Paliland is bravely told about by one of their own. Madmen think people who treat their own in such ways can have peace with others they swore to destroy. They need a couple generations of humanizing efforts there to make it right.



In his column in the Jerusalem daily Al-Quds, Hamdi Faraj described previous family-honor murders in which the perpetrators went unpunished: "We saw the covered body of a woman; her head was severed from her body. She had been murdered by her brother, who claimed [that she had violated the family's] honor. He was detained for several months, and then released...

"Several months ago, a teenage girl was murdered by her uncle, after he had sexual relations with her...

"There is a long history of murders that are justified by claims of [violation of] family honor. The murderers receive light sentences, and perhaps even win admiring glances from the sheikhs...

"The demands that [Aya's] bestial murderer be sentenced to death, and that the family receive a bereavement visit from the Legislative Council chairman are a positive development, but an insufficient one."[3]
Palestinian Authority Adopts Harsher Penalties for Honor Killings


On May 15, 2011, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas signed a presidential decree amending the penal law for "family honor" murders. The murder of women under circumstances of family honor violations will henceforth be considered a murder like any other.[1]

Oh wow,a whole month ago and lets sit down for peace talks now? lol

" Look, we made progress and have a whole month of experience to boot."
Interesting thing about all those things invented in Israel or by Jews?

It seems that most of it is not easily confirmable.

Mobile Phone? Marty Cooper. Born US from Ukrainian Parents. I can't find anything that indicates he is Jewish or descended from Jews. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Cooper. I checked lots of other sites regarding him and can't find any confirmation that he is Jewish.

Windows XP and Vista, as far as I can determine was probably developed by Microsoft in the US. Certainly the Microsoft Israel Website doesn't seem to mention that it was the sole developer of Windows Office, XP or Vista. While I'm sure all of the 4 R&D centers were involved in developing these products. http://www.microsoftrnd.co.il/#/About/Product%20Groups

First instance of anti-virus? Bernd Fix. German. Can't find anything that says he's Jewish or related to Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Fix

Phone Camera? Eric Fossum. Born in the US. Family tree can be found here - http://www.ericfossum.com/Personal%20Material/Family%20Tree/My%20immediate%20tree.pdf - The only likely Jewish link I can see is maybe the Russian side of the family. Certainly no details. Could also be attributed to Sharp and J-phone, developed in Japan.

ICQ *is* an Israeli invention. Google's founders are both of Jewish origin.

Skype? Founders - Sweden & Denmark. Developers - Estonian. I'd be interested in seeing something that shows the Skype connection to Israel.

Mastermind board game was made by an Israeli, but may have been based on a much older game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastermind_%28board_game%29

Plastic Drip Irrigation Emitter was first developed in Israel, but drip irrigation had existed for a long time before that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drip_irrigation

First Hybrid Electric Car? Porche. Austro-Hungarian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohner-Porsche_Mixte_Hybrid and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche


So while there seems to be *some* truth in the video, there also seems to be several distortions and fabrications. I'd like to see some proof of these claims.

Modi has regularly ignored anything that he didn't immediately agree with. I'd like to see a little effort on his part.

Grunge
for Grunge:

If you actually listened to the video, you would see that some of your points aren't even being contested by the video itself.

Like the electric car. The video says Israel has invested millions in the tech, not that it invented it, linking Israel money to this sort of tech improvement.

There are outright claims of inventions there and also other linked associations to Israel in other areas that saw development and/or Israeli contributions leading to PROFITS and thus the funding of the Israeli war machine.

Just like the FAILED Caterpillar boycott, because Israel was buying from Caterpillar to bulldoze houses of terrorists, the link was made.

The video is showing that if you really WANT to boycott Israel all the way, you must disassociate yourself from anything Israel is involved in.

......Or you can always stomp your feet and whine about Israel like you are doing now,and I can continue laughing at you.

"Its good to be the king!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo

This video supports a lot of my argument concerning cultures. Made by Arabs, commenting about their OWN culture being backwards.

It's so easy to see...if you had the capability to be honest.

I can show you how dishonest your side is. If in fact we went to another planet and found a 2 month old "fetus" of a human or humanoid, the scientific community would say " LIFE ON OTHER PLANET IS DISCOVERED!"

Ask a leftist if a 2 month old "fetus" here on earth is considered life? Nope, not life. Kill it now and go in peace with a clear conscience.

The lies are evident and how disgusting they are. So humane, I know...so humane.

You know I'm right,don't you?
Well I certainly know something about you Modi, but it's not that you are even remotely right. Nice try at a bluff there. I'm sorry to burst *your* bubble Modi, but...

The video you linked claimed that Israel invented the Intel Chip.

XP Vista and Office all developed by MS Israel. Doesn't mention anyone else having worked on it.

Firewalls and Anti-Virus - Video claims it to be invented by IDF. Firewall industry started in Israel but not from the IDF directly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_Point). Anti-Virus not invented in Israel. Not related to the IDF in any way.

Cellphones - says they were invented in Israel. The history according to Motorola seems to be different. http://motorola-videoleadership.hosted.jivesoftware.com/community/motorola_heritage/stories/cel l_phone_development - Martin cooper (living in the US) spoke to Rudy Krolop (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7432915/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/t/first-cell-phone-true -brick/) "Marty called me to his office one day in December 1972 and said, 'We've got to build a portable cell phone,'" Krolopp recalled. "And I said 'What the hell's a portable cell phone?'"
Strange that Marty Cooper, living in the US, called Rudy into his office. All the way from Israel? Or was it that Rudy also lived and worked in the US? Apparently it only took 90 days and much of that was obviously in the US (see the link regarding Rudy Krolop). Perhaps the Israeli office played a small part, but it certainly looks like the lions share was undertaken in the US.

The Electric Hybrid Car was invented in 1900. Israel wasn't around 'til 1948 as I recall. They were a little behind the times I guess.

The video says that the Google algorithm was "Israeli made". The American Jews, Larry Page (raised without religion) and Sergey Brin who made the Algorithm seem to have done it at Standford University.

Looks like the person who created the video was playing very loosely with the truth and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

Which side did you say was dishonest again? Shouldn't you have checked that video out a bit more closely before linking to it not once but twice as an example of why the world needs Israel?

Have Fun

Grunge
If you actually listened to the video, you would see that some of your points aren't even being contested by the video itself.


Do you understand what the word "some" means? No?

Obviously not.

Still waiting for that CSI-like investigation by you on all the videos showing that the Palis are teaching their kids to murder.

Must have missed your critical commentary about that.

Hahahahaha

Again I say...

It's so easy to see...if you had the capability to be honest.

I can show you how dishonest your side is. If in fact we went to another planet and found a 2 month old "fetus" of a human or humanoid, the scientific community would say " LIFE ON OTHER PLANET IS DISCOVERED!"

Ask a leftist if a 2 month old "fetus" here on earth is considered life? Nope, not life. Kill it now and go in peace with a clear conscience.

The lies are evident and how disgusting they are. So humane, I know...so humane.

You know I'm right,don't you?

This ^^is what is trying to tell us what is and isn't moral? Really?

Murder of innocent unborn babies is OK with you huh? Such a nice chap.

Or, if it isn't life, than science is chasing after the wrong thing in its search for life on other planets, as we all know that they qualify life in microscopic terms.
Just in an effort of completeness, the Firewall concept was thought up while working at the IDF.

"Shwed developed the idea while serving in the Israel Defense Forces, where he worked on securing classified networks."

Certainly not by the IDF (as claimed by the Video) or even for the IDF. Received the inspiration while working incidentally for the IDF.

Grunge
for Grunge:

And your detailed commentary on all the Pali kids shows?

Hard to defend?


And...
I
can show you how dishonest your side is. If in fact we went to another planet and found a 2 month old "fetus" of a human or humanoid, the scientific community would say " LIFE ON OTHER PLANET IS DISCOVERED!"

Ask a leftist if a 2 month old "fetus" here on earth is considered life? Nope, not life. Kill it now and go in peace with a clear conscience.

The lies are evident and how disgusting they are. So humane, I know...so humane.

You know I'm right,don't you?
Hey, it was your video. You referenced it in an effort to show how we all "needed" Israel.

Since you linked to it, perhaps you can find out exactly how much of it is lies and fabrication?

I really don't care. I've shown that several parts of it are pure fiction.

And you fell for it. Just like you've fallen for other fabrications about Israel perhaps? So how many of your other videos and links are based on fictions Modi? "Goes directly to credibility your Honour!"

Nicely done Modi. Nicely done. You sure showed me.

Have Fun

Grunge
More of Grunges little darlings. Enjoy )



92-Year-Old Palestinian Woman: Palestinians Should Massacre Jews Like We Massacred Them in Hebron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T64JIgs5C6k
And you fell for it. Just like you've fallen for other fabrications about Israel perhaps? So how many of your other videos and links are based on fictions Modi? "Goes directly to credibility your Honour!"

From the man who tried to use UN "Human Rights Council" declarations for your arguments?

Excuse me while I LOL!
Are you sure that video is true Modi?

Perhaps you have fallen for another fabrication? How can we be sure?

Lets see, Modi has deliberately mislead and misrepresented regarding narrative elements that he has relied on in the past.

Now he has been shown to rely on obviously flawed "evidence".

Please explain why anyone should be listening to what you are saying Modi?

I'm really going to have to insist on an actual answer to this one.

If you can't re-establish your credibility, well, I think we can safely ignore everything you say.

Please, feel free to explain why we should pay any attention at all...

Grunge
Poor Grunge can't bear to witness what he supports blindly.

Thankfully I can help others see what is going on.

Hamas In Their Own Voices
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08L09V0_sg&feature=relmfu

Don't look Grunge, just keep your head buried in your failed multi-cultural dream.

Didn't get the memo? It's OVER! You are chasing something that is OVER!
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