| Author | questio about intern clan tournaments/events |
|---|
is it allowed to make prices and when yes is there a rule who says how much is allowed ?
greetings Me |
Yes. It is allowed untill u stay within these rules below...
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5
3.15. Presents must not exceed 10,000 gold * [Combat level of the grantor] + 250 * [Diamonds obtained by the grantor through donations] per month. |
for Sleipnir:
The rules you need to keep to are:
3.20. Any kind of payment for combat is forbidden. Rewarding a player for losing or promising such reward for losing, entering or quitting combat will be considered as contractual combat. Payment for assist in hunt is not considered violation. Make sure to add corresponding comments to the transfer. Such payments cannot exceed the total gold equivalent of looted gold and resources.
3.22. Any custom combat tournaments with a prize reward and/or a participation fee are forbidden.
Custom card game tournaments are allowed.
Thus as long as you don't collect participation fees and do not give out any prizes for the inter-clan event, it is ok.
No gifts to any participants for the winning or losing of any tournament /event combat either |
for Takesister:
i dont see how sending gold to a person that won the clan tourney with the description "gift" is illegal. it is a loophole.
for example, the person won the tournament, but it is illegal to reward him for it, so you just sent the gold with description: Gift
and as long as the gift does not exceed 10,000 gold * [Combat level of the grantor] it's ok. nobody can prove that the gift is the reward for tourney |
| But if it can be proven that the gift is due to COMBAT, it is illegal. |
if it can be proven
but it is impossible to prove. |
If you believe so, go ahead.
Using any loophole in the rules is also punishable, don't forget that. |
If you believe so, go ahead.
i was just making a point, i dont even have a clan
Using any loophole in the rules is also punishable
wow that is just absurd... and makes no sense. we have the RULES to follow. if something is not in the rules, then how can one be punished for doing it??? |
| Does the phrase "spirit of the law" mean anything to you? |
for krutoy:
The rules are pretty clear cut saying you can't pay for combat, can't have rewards for custom tourny, and can't have participation fee for that custom tourny.
You're basically saying if there's a rule against killing people, then you can get around it by:
-paying someone else to do it
-blaming it on the gun; since it's the gun that shot the person; you didn't do it
-saying you just gave them too much medicine; and it's not your fault they overdosed
-running someone over with your car and blaming it on the person for running into your car and that you should be compensated for damages on your car
etc..... |
for qulows:
Who said we have to follow the spirit of the law? We were given letters and words, and we have to follow what those words say. I understand if this was a religion, then yes. You would have to follow the spirit of the law or else you don't believe the religion. But this is a GAME, and you have to find every single loophole (or whatever) to benefit yourself. And you should not be punished for following the words of the law (WHICH YOU WERE GIVEN) but finding loopholes. |
we have the RULES to follow
3.20. Any kind of payment for combat is forbidden. Rewarding a player for losing or promising such reward for losing, entering or quitting combat will be considered as contractual combat. Payment for assist in hunt is not considered violation. Make sure to add corresponding comments to the transfer. Such payments cannot exceed the total gold equivalent of looted gold and resources.
3.22. Any custom combat tournaments with a prize reward and/or a participation fee are forbidden.
Custom card game tournaments are allowed.
follow them :P |
for Pantheon:
Ok im glad you brought real life example here. I will prove you how you are wrong.
1. if you pay someone else to do it, it is still your fault because if you didn't order the killer, then the person who got killed would he still alive
2. A gun cannot shoot by itself. You are the one that pressed the trigger and shot the person.
3. If YOU give them too much medicine, then YOU are responcible.
4. If you run them over in the middle of the road, where pedestrians are not aliases to cross the road, then it is not your fault. You will not! Be in any trouble for this.
All of the examples you made do not work in this case. |
for eddyimmanuel:
I don't think you read all of my posts correctly. You send the winner of the tournament a "gift" and nobody except for you or him can prove anything. After all, it is not illegal to send gifts... |
aliases
Sorry typo. I meant allowed** |
for krutoy:
We did.
If you send a gift to someone FOR COMBAT, the gift is illegal. |
for Takesister:
nah, maybe I just happened to feel like giving away gold to a friend, and since nobody can prove it was for combat, then i cannot be punished. No proof==NOT guilty
And that is the loophole I was talking about, that if nobody can prove it, you will not be punished.
Just look at real life examples, like OJ Simpson, this guy is a killer! And he was not punished for it because there was not enough proof. |
nobody can prove it was for combat If there is a single doubt that is might be for combat, Admin can and will punish without proof.
There is no need for proof. You can easily check previous punishments and see if any proof was ever presented.
Of course, given that you're openly declaring the loophole, I guess this thread is proof of a person taking advantage of a rules loophole, and thus can be punished.
This game doesn't follow the US judicial system. This game follows the monarchical government structure. What Empire says is true and is law. No proof needed. |
| I openly stated the loophole, but I did not use it. And even if I did, you can't prove it, and even if I will you won't be able to prove it. Thus, me stating this loophole here does not prove anyone using it. This thread (as you stated) is not proof of q person using this loophole, but it IS proof that a person CAN use it, and IF he gets punchshed for it, it will not be fair because the rules that the players are given were not broken |
for Takesister:
Also, I understand that this game has a monarchy, and whatever the admins want to do, they can do it. BUT if they did whatever they wanted and (like you said) penalized players without proof, then I would leave this game, and tell all my friends to do it, and tell all their friends, because penalizing players without proof is absurd and incorrect. Like Stalin when he killed millions of people without proof when he was just afraid to be overthrown. |
