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| Author | Thief hunting - evil or not |
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| That is not evil .. :) U can travel a lot everywhere u want .. no limitation .. :) | | Topic moved from "Queries and help" to "General game forum". | What I could conclude here after reading the comments of my respected fellow gamers are (obviously I put my own logic here to reach to the conclusion, whereas others can reach to a starkly opposite conclusion by applying their own logic):
1) We should not compare a game with real life, as this game is just a form of entertainment for all of us and hence, thieves are not really thieves here. They are just using one more method to entertain themselves in this game.
2) In the same context thief hunters are trying to entertain themselves by using another method, i.e. hunting thieves.
3) If I'm ruining (so-called) one's ambush, I'm also providing the opportunity to many other thieves to get their ambush triggered (which spans 3 combat levels, e.g., in my case lvl 12, 13 and 14.
4) In general (putting an emphasis on word 'general' here), thieves never purposely try to ambush a particular traveler. They only expect a caravan. It is either bad luck for the thieves or to the traveler that they faced each other, depending on their arts and lost time.
5) An ambushed traveler should understand that the thief wasn't expecting the traveler, so he/she shouldn't be angry at the thief. Likewise, a thief hunter does try to catch a thief, but he/she never knows who the thief would be. But both the above sentences are only good when neither a thief nor a thief hunter is targeting a particular person.
6) A PvP in an ambush can seldom be fair. If both the thief and the traveler are in same ap, most probably the thief would be in advantage here because of the map design. On the other hand, if the thief hunter is in full ap and the thief in min. or moderate ap, the thief hunter would be in advantage here. So in most cases there is no fairness involved in PvP ambush and people would have to accept it willingly or unwillingly.
7) As majority of the comments in this thread suggested that it is simply a matter of choice to a thief hunter whether he/she wants to continue it or not, I would say "In the end it comes to me (as a thief hunter) if I want to keep spending my money on thief hunting or put that money into cg or save it for TG."
8) Most people also suggested that there is nothing morally wrong here. Moreover, the values of morality changes with space and time. But that's something to be better left for some other thread.
At last, I would like to add here that I've not targeted any of the poster's comments in this thread. But if accidently I did so, plz pardon me for this nuisance.
Thanks! | 2) In the same context thief hunters are trying to entertain themselves by using another method, i.e. hunting thieves.
5) An ambushed traveler should understand that the thief wasn't expecting the traveler, so he/she shouldn't be angry at the thief. Likewise, a thief hunter does try to catch a thief, but he/she never knows who the thief would be. But both the above sentences are only good when neither a thief nor a thief hunter is targeting a particular person.
I think there's some slight contradiction in here. If thieves are looking for caravans, then, you can't blame them for ambushing you. Meanwhile, thief hunters expect, and *want* to amvush thieves. So, yeah, it's somehow their fault to ambush thieves. Of course, as long as it's not targeted, that's moraly fine, though.
I'd like to add a bit of personnal feelings. I just fail to see how you get fun, hunting thieves. It's a little bit as joining min AP fights in full arts. That's pointless. If you don't want to keep on loosing, that's fine, but why not travel in min AP, and just enjoy a... Well, not so fair (thief has slight advantage, but IMO, real advantage depends on faction, where barb or elven bows can reap one's army before they could actually move)... But still, both thief and thief hunter would deserve their win. At least a bit.
Right now, yeah, frankly, I find thief hunters boring. That's easy, and pointless win, where thief hunter loose gold, and thief wastes time. That's not like every thief were using full arts. Hardly any do. | I just fail to see how you get fun, hunting thieves. It's a little bit as joining min AP fights in full arts. That's pointless.
+1
Either the people cannot win fair fights, and this is their only way
Or they just like to annoy others.
I think that both Stalkers and thief hunters, are very small-minded and petty people. (Except if you thief hunt a stalker)
They should really remember that this is a game, and it supposed to be fun.
And to answer the question, it is not evil, just a bit pathetic | #45
I think that both Stalkers and thief hunters, are very small-minded and petty people
I see you are some kind of mind doctor. You can say so much about people judging them by watching what they wear in virtual world.
They should really remember that this is a game, and it supposed to be fun.
You should remeber that too. It works in both sides. | I have seen this from both sides and dont think there is anything wrong with thief hunting at all.
Personally I dont target specific people but probably travel full art'd around half the time. Gold has never been a problem for me so I dont mind paying a little for some fun ... and yes, it can be lots of fun catching thieves.
It can also drastically reduce the time taken for fight as you can kill them quickly (note: I said "can" so no silly replies that it can also make battles longer which is obvious).
When I am ambushing the vast majority of battles are v's AI so the occaisional thief hunter makes a change and "encourages" me to take a break for an hour or so.
Lastly, as you cannot be ambushed by people in your own MC this cuts down on friends catching me & also is it not good to slow people in competing MCs getting the benefits of high TG? | what do you think about travelling with no AP (but full army) to get some XP and fsp being ambushed (and knowing you will loose)?
I do this sometimes and found the loss of gold meaningless vs. the well-appreciated gain in fsp (even if minor) | Thief Hunting is good if it gives "GAMING SATISFACTION" to the player.
Because afterall, SATISFACTION is the main reason why a gamer gets addicted to a game, if hunting thieves gives satisfaction, well and good. =) | for ElfPride:
I agree with most of your conclusions.
3) If I'm ruining (so-called) one's ambush, I'm also providing the opportunity to many other thieves to get their ambush triggered
this one I don't know. | | Down with thieves! They rob us of our hard earned savings! | all these guys saying thieves are evil, and we must crush them...it's pathetic.
thief is only a word, choosen by developpers to name the guild.
if you had the same guild, with exactly the same game mechanics, but just an other name (for exemple fighter's guild) it wouldn't cause any problem to you.
I just fail to see how you get fun, hunting thieves. It's a little bit as joining min AP fights in full arts. That's pointless.
+1
thief hunting is a way to have easy victories in unfair battles.
morally, it's as bad as joining min AP battles in full arts.
the only difference: you are hidden under the false pretext of giving justice to thieves, to keep a clear conscience. | And at the end of the day, believe it or not, but stealing gold from travelers turned out to be just a game mechanics that wouldn't cause any problem to you.
On the other hand, low and behold, defending your pockets: morally, it's as bad as joining min AP battles in full arts.
So be it! Let the immorality (my immorality!!!) shine above mass impaling of morally right ... stealers (not thieves, of course):
[Service][Lvl 12 Thieves Education: bagging and recycling] https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1907961 | i hunted thiefs on lvl 14 too
If you have a multi or this is a multi, you should post it in your personal info.
Remember you are only allowed 3 characters total even if any previous has been blocked! | #54
I dont think he can have his account blocked second time. | #54 & #55
Additional characters, even if blocked, need to be listed in profile too or current main can still be blocked.
However he does have his previous character included in his profile so I dont think it would apply here even though he says "same IP" rather than "additional char".
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thief hunting is a way to have easy victories in unfair battles.
morally, it's as bad as joining min AP battles in full arts.
the only difference: you are hidden under the false pretext of giving justice to thieves, to keep a clear conscience.
I dont try and justify it at all. I do it on occaision because I enjoy it. I would however never join a min AP group battle with full arts on purpose. | This question no one can aswer for you.
You think it's a bad? So it's bad for you, it's good? the same.
Don't forget it's only one game, and everyone is only doing what they think is the best evolution for the character... | what do you think about travelling with no AP (but full army) to get some XP and fsp being ambushed (and knowing you will loose)?
I do this sometimes and found the loss of gold meaningless vs. the well-appreciated gain in fsp (even if minor)
anyone interested in answering my question? | | OndaNera: I agree with you | | Very evil...only unarmed travellers go straight to heaven. |
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