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Author[Big Changes] DE have new racial ability
Wait, so DE will be losing magic piercing? Or will they get both? This new one is still only for magic DE, so I don't really see the point of it. Can someone explain.
DE has no more piercing but has a def bonus depending of sp (or sp and knowledge, i don't remember)

BUT

there is a bug and now DE has both, piercing + def
ATM, since wasn't officially announced is the other way around : DE has piercing but do to bug gets a def bonus :)
Whoever says that piercing magic is a weak DE racial skill has not played much PvP in their lords career.

You stack pierce with elemental call as a magic DE (speaking strictly PvP) and it is like dropping tactical nukes on the battlefield. Of course DE troops cannot be stronger with this build or one magic DE could kill 2 opponents at once...the sheer damage is just too awesome.

Right now a Magic DE with the stacked abilities is like a super hack. Not only does it have a better def art than a wizard's mini art can give you (at level 15 anyway)...but it has lost none of its nuclear capabilities.

If you play as a magic DE now while the bug is in effect you WILL be disappointed later when the piercing goes away...so up to you on how sour you would like to be in the future xD

Or up to you how much you wish to exploit a bug and obliterate foes in CG.

Cheers,
LS
DE magic is weak comparative with DE might. Special ability (piercing) was useless from might DE, so this change force again DE to play magic but reduce the chance to win. Of course, now, with booth, DE is stronger.
Great... two Racial abilities for a single faction WORKING in a same time ?

Significant achievement by admins... Applauds...
two Racial abilities for a single faction WORKING in a same time ?

hm, what about elves and magicians? they have bonuses in hunts. let`s undo those.
LOL
hm, what about elves and magicians? they have bonuses in hunts. let`s undo those.

Elves don't have any special bonus in hunt. Their critical hits are their only racial ability.
might de's are already extremely powerful in pvp as might, their racial ability is supposed to assist magic de's, who, lacking powerful tanks, need to be able to ignore magic resist and deal tremedous magical damage. THAT is the usefulness of thier ability. If you dont want to play magic de, then just continue on as might de. They do just fine in pvp.
I still prefer magic piercing as def...
Hasn't it been fixed during the last update?
Hasn't it been fixed during the last update?

yes it has, magic DE much weaker now and it's fine :)
Just checked, old racial isn't working. Let's wait for official announsment.
haha caravan doesn't lightning my garg anymore :D
Admins need to change the information here:

https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=38
Might DE is not extremely powerful in PvP. They are weaker than magic in PvP. But much stronger than Magic DE in hunts.[ Mage Wizzys are strong in PvP & extremely strong in hunts. They need some hit :) ] Anyway no use for might DE with that update.... And not much use for Magic DE in hunts. It is not bcause mage DE is weaker in PvP than might(they are stronger) but bcause they are extremely weak in neutral battles where all the talents which power them in PvP become useless. So Mage DE will still be unbalanced btwn PvP & PvE.....
15 total Points on Knowledge/SP + fsp 10 (normal for cl 13+) = 15 free defense parameter...

it's mean have same count of parameter points of might DE, the only difference is defence not attack... But with +15 points in Knowledge/SP To support with darkness magic or chaos magic...

So they aren't one wizard in hunts, but they are lot better than before, i can say 2x more strong :)
They would get +3 def only friend.... See formula. With 10 racial, how much def can Wizzy put & they can take 3 mini arts :)
+3? are you sure? the admins won't will make something useless...

Well, wizard get a nice bonus defence, but it can stack only 1 time per unit, not 3 :)

that's +6 - 8 def with fsp lv 12 i'm not sure... One wizard can answer this question better :P
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